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Re: Layup/workbench

skorija
 

Is there a site where more Canadians hang out.
This layup surface really is nice and as you can see. Pristine and on the other side it is also pristine as it has the 1/8 inch cardboard
Mike a.k.a. dust

On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:39 PM, skorija via groups.io <skorija=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:36 PM, michael skorija <skorija@yahoo.com> wrote:

Pics I of course forgot


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:33 PM, michael skorija <skorija@yahoo.com> wrote:
Built like a cozy. Called a torsion box. Three-quarter inch plywood and then two by sixes with a ladder frame inside and then three-quarter inch plywood on the other side. The side shown is the plywood, the other side has a 8 inch hard board wear surface that’s easily replaced it’s 42“ x 8‘. I don’t like 48 inch surfaces as it’s very hard to reach to the middle of them, 42 is optimum

50 bucks pickup in troy mi

Mike aka dust.

As flat as I could make it and has not changed

Sent from my iPhone




Re: (Landoll) harmonic damper fluid

Bill Allen
 

After much research  I found;
Which is the spec of a “super high viscosity fluid” which meets Federal standard VV-D-1078 “silicone as damping fluid”.

I conclude that this is the correct fluid to use and have shared it with Vince at flyboy accessories.

Bill

On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 at 09:03, David K via groups.io <geckoinc99=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Found this.  Again, getting the exact fluid would be difficult but I don't know how much of a difference it would be if you didn't have the correct silicone fluid.  Just make sure it's on the viscous side of the equation. 

Inline image


David Kissick
Cozy Mark IV
N5789Z
Chapter 3 (again) - Shop Build
http://www.cozyserenity.net


On Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 09:25:25 PM PDT, berkut13 <berkut13@...> wrote:


Never had it apart.  As explained to me by Landoll, it’s a solid steal ring surrounded by “viscous silicone” but was not specific.

-James

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:32 AM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landoll harmonic balancer

 

Hi James, - do you know what the “fluid media” is that the Landoll dampener uses?

The folk at flyboyaccessories say that determining the specs for this was the only thing preventing them from making a batch….

 

Bill

 

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 at 06:54, berkut13 <berkut13@...> wrote:

“Balancer” is the wrong term for this unit.  It is a “Dampener”.  Its purpose is to dampen harmonic vibrations, not balance a rotating mass.

 

-James

Berkut/Race 13

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Carrico
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:19 PM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landfill harmonic balancer

 

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:

 

I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

 

tc

 

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

 

Bill Allen

CZ4 G-BYLZ

LE160 N99BA

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Re: Landoll harmonic balancer

David K
 

Found this.  Again, getting the exact fluid would be difficult but I don't know how much of a difference it would be if you didn't have the correct silicone fluid.  Just make sure it's on the viscous side of the equation. 

Inline image


David Kissick
Cozy Mark IV
N5789Z
Chapter 3 (again) - Shop Build
http://www.cozyserenity.net


On Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 09:25:25 PM PDT, berkut13 <berkut13@...> wrote:


Never had it apart.  As explained to me by Landoll, it’s a solid steal ring surrounded by “viscous silicone” but was not specific.

-James

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:32 AM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landoll harmonic balancer

 

Hi James, - do you know what the “fluid media” is that the Landoll dampener uses?

The folk at flyboyaccessories say that determining the specs for this was the only thing preventing them from making a batch….

 

Bill

 

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 at 06:54, berkut13 <berkut13@...> wrote:

“Balancer” is the wrong term for this unit.  It is a “Dampener”.  Its purpose is to dampen harmonic vibrations, not balance a rotating mass.

 

-James

Berkut/Race 13

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Carrico
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:19 PM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landfill harmonic balancer

 

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:

 

I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

 

tc

 

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

 

Bill Allen

CZ4 G-BYLZ

LE160 N99BA

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Re: Landoll harmonic balancer

berkut13
 

Never had it apart.  As explained to me by Landoll, it’s a solid steal ring surrounded by “viscous silicone” but was not specific.

-James

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:32 AM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landoll harmonic balancer

 

Hi James, - do you know what the “fluid media” is that the Landoll dampener uses?

The folk at flyboyaccessories say that determining the specs for this was the only thing preventing them from making a batch….

 

Bill

 

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 at 06:54, berkut13 <berkut13@...> wrote:

“Balancer” is the wrong term for this unit.  It is a “Dampener”.  Its purpose is to dampen harmonic vibrations, not balance a rotating mass.

 

-James

Berkut/Race 13

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Carrico
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:19 PM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landfill harmonic balancer

 

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:

 

I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

 

tc

 

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

 

Bill Allen

CZ4 G-BYLZ

LE160 N99BA

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Richmond VA

Nick U
 

Are there any canard builders/flyers in the Richmond VA area? Would you please contact me off line.

Thanks,
Nick Ugolini


Re: Trio EZ Pilot for sale

Nick U
 

The EZ pilot has been sold.

On Sep 22, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Nick U <unick3@gmail.com> wrote:

I have an used Trio Avionics EZ Pilot (list $1120) for sale for $300. I do not have the servo which can be purchased separately from Trio.

If you have a NavAid servo, this wing leveler will work with it.

Please contact me off line

Nick Ugolini


Re: BR8ES Plugs with electronic ignition/O-320

Del Schier
 

I have been using NGK BKR9EIX Amazon.com: NGK (2669) BKR9EIX Iridium IX Spark Plug, Pack of 1, One Size : Automotive my IO-360 C1E6 angle valve. 

 

They used to be $6 but now $11, they never wear out. I do replace them 100 hrs just because I found the adaptors freeze up if you leave them in too long and I get new ones because you can’t replace the gaskets.

Del Schier

Cozy IV N197DL

Cannon Creek Airpark 15FL

 

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io <canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Rothwell
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 5:48 PM
To: Canard Aviators <canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [c-a] BR8ES Plugs with electronic ignition/O-320

 

they work for me.

 

On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 04:12, Tim Andres <tim2542@...> wrote:

You dont say what engine you have, but that plug is probably the most popular in the experimental community for 0-320/360 Lycoming  

The BR8ES comes in 2 part numbers, solid top and screw on. You want to solid too ones, the screw on terminals can be used but have caused problems if they come loose. 

 



On Sep 21, 2021, at 9:52 AM, aviationeyes <skyeyecorp@...> wrote:



I've been using the same W24 EMR-C for the last 3-4 years (~150hrs) and other than a little cleaning at condition inspections, they have given me reliable engine operation.  I probably don't need to change them even now, but their outsides are getting ugly with surface rust. Someone recently gave me a new pack of NGK BR8ES plugs. These are standard (i.e., no exotic metal tip electrodes) plugs otherwise having the same threads/heat range/reach as the W24 plugs. Does anyone see any problems or have any reports with using them?

--Jose

 

 

 


Trio EZ Pilot for sale

Nick U
 

I have an used Trio Avionics EZ Pilot (list $1120) for sale for $300. I do not have the servo which can be purchased separately from Trio.

If you have a NavAid servo, this wing leveler will work with it.

Please contact me off line

Nick Ugolini


Re: Landoll harmonic balancer

Todd Carrico
 

tc

On Sep 22, 2021, at 3:12 AM, Bill Allen <billallensworld@gmail.com> wrote:


Yes, I’d heard that too - I also heard that “lead shot” is used….

But the guys at “flyboyaccessories” need to have an exact spec of whatever media is used so that they can complete the assembly and offer it with confidence.
I don't suppose if a person has one of these, that they’ve taken it apart to see what’s inside….

Bill
It sounded like that was what the folks at flyboyaccessories did. It’s hard to pull a spec from used fluid. Sucks that we are at this stopping point.

Tc


Re: Landoll harmonic balancer

Bill Allen
 

Yes, I’d heard that too - I also heard that “lead shot” is used….

But the guys at “flyboyaccessories” need to have an exact spec of whatever media is used so that they can complete the assembly and offer it with confidence.
I don't suppose if a person has one of these, that they’ve taken it apart to see what’s inside….

Bill

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 at 09:33, David K via groups.io <geckoinc99=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It's usually a silicone fluid.  It needs to be viscous and able to handle heat absorption.  

David Kissick
Cozy Mark IV
N5789Z
Chapter 3 (again) - Shop Build
http://www.cozyserenity.net


On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 11:32:40 PM PDT, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:


Hi James, - do you know what the “fluid media” is that the Landoll dampener uses?
The folk at flyboyaccessories say that determining the specs for this was the only thing preventing them from making a batch….

Bill

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 at 06:54, berkut13 <berkut13@...> wrote:

“Balancer” is the wrong term for this unit.  It is a “Dampener”.  Its purpose is to dampen harmonic vibrations, not balance a rotating mass.

 

-James

Berkut/Race 13

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Carrico
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:19 PM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landfill harmonic balancer

 

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:

 

I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

 

tc

 

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

 

Bill Allen

CZ4 G-BYLZ

LE160 N99BA

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Re: Landoll harmonic balancer

David K
 

It's usually a silicone fluid.  It needs to be viscous and able to handle heat absorption.  

David Kissick
Cozy Mark IV
N5789Z
Chapter 3 (again) - Shop Build
http://www.cozyserenity.net


On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 11:32:40 PM PDT, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:


Hi James, - do you know what the “fluid media” is that the Landoll dampener uses?
The folk at flyboyaccessories say that determining the specs for this was the only thing preventing them from making a batch….

Bill

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 at 06:54, berkut13 <berkut13@...> wrote:

“Balancer” is the wrong term for this unit.  It is a “Dampener”.  Its purpose is to dampen harmonic vibrations, not balance a rotating mass.

 

-James

Berkut/Race 13

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Carrico
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:19 PM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landfill harmonic balancer

 

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:

 

I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

 

tc

 

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

 

Bill Allen

CZ4 G-BYLZ

LE160 N99BA

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Re: Landoll harmonic balancer

Bill Allen
 

Hi James, - do you know what the “fluid media” is that the Landoll dampener uses?
The folk at flyboyaccessories say that determining the specs for this was the only thing preventing them from making a batch….

Bill

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 at 06:54, berkut13 <berkut13@...> wrote:

“Balancer” is the wrong term for this unit.  It is a “Dampener”.  Its purpose is to dampen harmonic vibrations, not balance a rotating mass.

 

-James

Berkut/Race 13

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Carrico
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:19 PM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landfill harmonic balancer

 

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:

 

I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

 

tc

 

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

 

Bill Allen

CZ4 G-BYLZ

LE160 N99BA

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Re: Landoll harmonic balancer

berkut13
 

“Balancer” is the wrong term for this unit.  It is a “Dampener”.  Its purpose is to dampen harmonic vibrations, not balance a rotating mass.

 

-James

Berkut/Race 13

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io [mailto:canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Carrico
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:19 PM
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [c-a] Landfill harmonic balancer

 

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:

 

I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

 

tc

 

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

 

Bill Allen

CZ4 G-BYLZ

LE160 N99BA

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Re: BR8ES Plugs with electronic ignition/O-320

aviationeyes
 


Hi Tim,
My engine type was referenced in the subject line! You are right, about the screw terminals and happily I have the solid top. Based on your comments and others', I'll give them a try. I just have to wonder how a $10 dollar spark plug (e.g., the W24 EMR-C) can be so much better than these $2 types. 
--Jose

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Tim Andres wrote:
You dont say what engine you have, but that plug is probably the most popular in the experimental community for 0-320/360 Lycoming  
The BR8ES comes in 2 part numbers, solid top and screw on. You want to solid too ones, the screw on terminals can be used but have caused problems if they come loose. 


On Sep 21, 2021, at 9:52 AM, aviationeyes <skyeyecorp@...> wrote:

I've been using the same W24 EMR-C for the last 3-4 years (~150hrs) and other than a little cleaning at condition inspections, they have given me reliable engine operation.  I probably don't need to change them even now, but their outsides are getting ugly with surface rust. Someone recently gave me a new pack of NGK BR8ES plugs. These are standard (i.e., no exotic metal tip electrodes) plugs otherwise having the same threads/heat range/reach as the W24 plugs. Does anyone see any problems or have any reports with using them?
--Jose




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Re: BR8ES Plugs with electronic ignition/O-320

Bulent Aliev
 

For 10 years I flew with:


Denso (5312) IK27 Iridium Spark Plugs for Plasma and

 P-Mag

Electrode gap 0.30-0.32

Sp plug torque 15 ft lb

Adapter 25 ft lb


On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 4:48 PM Tony Rothwell <tony13rothwell@...> wrote:
they work for me.

On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 04:12, Tim Andres <tim2542@...> wrote:
You dont say what engine you have, but that plug is probably the most popular in the experimental community for 0-320/360 Lycoming  
The BR8ES comes in 2 part numbers, solid top and screw on. You want to solid too ones, the screw on terminals can be used but have caused problems if they come loose. 


On Sep 21, 2021, at 9:52 AM, aviationeyes <skyeyecorp@...> wrote:


I've been using the same W24 EMR-C for the last 3-4 years (~150hrs) and other than a little cleaning at condition inspections, they have given me reliable engine operation.  I probably don't need to change them even now, but their outsides are getting ugly with surface rust. Someone recently gave me a new pack of NGK BR8ES plugs. These are standard (i.e., no exotic metal tip electrodes) plugs otherwise having the same threads/heat range/reach as the W24 plugs. Does anyone see any problems or have any reports with using them?
--Jose



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Bulent Aliev
Enginegear
ph +1 954.557.1019
fax +1 386.957.4473
Bulent@...
www.enginegearonline.com


Re: BR8ES Plugs with electronic ignition/O-320

Tony Rothwell
 

they work for me.

On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 04:12, Tim Andres <tim2542@...> wrote:
You dont say what engine you have, but that plug is probably the most popular in the experimental community for 0-320/360 Lycoming  
The BR8ES comes in 2 part numbers, solid top and screw on. You want to solid too ones, the screw on terminals can be used but have caused problems if they come loose. 


On Sep 21, 2021, at 9:52 AM, aviationeyes <skyeyecorp@...> wrote:


I've been using the same W24 EMR-C for the last 3-4 years (~150hrs) and other than a little cleaning at condition inspections, they have given me reliable engine operation.  I probably don't need to change them even now, but their outsides are getting ugly with surface rust. Someone recently gave me a new pack of NGK BR8ES plugs. These are standard (i.e., no exotic metal tip electrodes) plugs otherwise having the same threads/heat range/reach as the W24 plugs. Does anyone see any problems or have any reports with using them?
--Jose




Re: BR8ES Plugs with electronic ignition/O-320

Tim Andres
 

You dont say what engine you have, but that plug is probably the most popular in the experimental community for 0-320/360 Lycoming  
The BR8ES comes in 2 part numbers, solid top and screw on. You want to solid too ones, the screw on terminals can be used but have caused problems if they come loose. 


On Sep 21, 2021, at 9:52 AM, aviationeyes <skyeyecorp@...> wrote:


I've been using the same W24 EMR-C for the last 3-4 years (~150hrs) and other than a little cleaning at condition inspections, they have given me reliable engine operation.  I probably don't need to change them even now, but their outsides are getting ugly with surface rust. Someone recently gave me a new pack of NGK BR8ES plugs. These are standard (i.e., no exotic metal tip electrodes) plugs otherwise having the same threads/heat range/reach as the W24 plugs. Does anyone see any problems or have any reports with using them?
--Jose




BR8ES Plugs with electronic ignition/O-320

aviationeyes
 

I've been using the same W24 EMR-C for the last 3-4 years (~150hrs) and other than a little cleaning at condition inspections, they have given me reliable engine operation.  I probably don't need to change them even now, but their outsides are getting ugly with surface rust. Someone recently gave me a new pack of NGK BR8ES plugs. These are standard (i.e., no exotic metal tip electrodes) plugs otherwise having the same threads/heat range/reach as the W24 plugs. Does anyone see any problems or have any reports with using them?
--Jose




Re: Landfill harmonic balancer

Nick U
 

I recently installed a balance ring system from Balance Masters to test out.  http://www.balancemasters.com

I can report that the balance ring system by this company DOES NOT WORK.   For reference I used my Aces Electronic Balancer to test vibration out both before and after installation.  


Unbalanced (no weights on flywheel) the Aces indicated .03”/sec balance.  When the balance ring was installed the best it would give me is .17”/sec balance at 2100 and 2200 rpm.

I then took the ring off and balanced the engine/prop to around .02”/sec at 2200 rpm..  After reinstallation of the ring and the balance went up to .19”/sec which was quite a surprise.  The ring never reduced the inbalance to anything close to what I was able to achieve to with the electronic balancer at 2200 rpm even after running the engine for longer than the specified 2 minutes at a steady rpm.

I did notice a possible reduction of vibration at cruise rpm, but it is only a seat of the pants estimate.  It felt a bit different, but not $400 worth of difference in my book.

I returned the balance ring, rebalanced the engine/prop with the Aces, down to .01”/sec and saved myself some $$.   I am not saying that a competitive or different type of balance system would not work, but in this case with this product, it did not.


Nick Ugolini




On Sep 20, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Is Mark Landoll still around?

If anyone has his contact details, he might not mind answering that question….

On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 22:44, Todd Carrico <tcarrico.cozy@...> wrote:
here is the response i got:
" It's not a high priority, but the machinist does have the unit disassembled and measured. 

The biggest hurdle is finding someone who knows EXACTLY what the gel inside the originals was.  Find that out and we can make some.

Thanks,
Vince"

does anyone know that answer?

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:18 PM Todd Carrico via groups.io <tcarrico.cozy=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:


I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

tc

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

Bill Allen
CZ4 G-BYLZ
LE160 N99BA
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Re: Landfill harmonic balancer

Bill Allen
 

Is Mark Landoll still around?

If anyone has his contact details, he might not mind answering that question….

On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 22:44, Todd Carrico <tcarrico.cozy@...> wrote:
here is the response i got:
" It's not a high priority, but the machinist does have the unit disassembled and measured. 

The biggest hurdle is finding someone who knows EXACTLY what the gel inside the originals was.  Find that out and we can make some.

Thanks,
Vince"

does anyone know that answer?

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:18 PM Todd Carrico via groups.io <tcarrico.cozy=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

6 months ago, vincefrazier@... said they were working on making new ones.  He said they would probably sell them here:


I don't see them listed, so I sent him an email.

tc

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:09 PM Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I’m looking for a Landoll harmonic balancer - has anyone got one or know of one for sale?

Bill Allen
CZ4 G-BYLZ
LE160 N99BA
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