It is possible, they put me on 27 last year from 2300 feet!

On Jul 15, 2018, at 9:24 PM, 'Curt Boyll' via COZY Builders Mailing List <cozy_builders@...> wrote:

Flying the 135 kt route at 2,300 ft includes being sent to Runway 36. I believe it is not possible for FISK and the Tower to put you on 9/27 if you fly the 135 kt/2,300 ft approach. (Correct me if I’m wrong about this.)

Keep in mind that even when you fly the 135 kt approach, FISK may still decide to put you behind VERY SLOW traffic, if that’s what they decide is necessary. In 2017, at 2,300 ft and 135 kts, I was not even close to FISK when they said, “Canard, turn right and get behind the two biplanes.” … which they also directed East over Fisk Boulevard and toward the 36 runways. 

I managed to slow down from 135 kts to 75 kts in about 90 seconds, mostly because it did not involve descending at this point. I spoke to one of the biplane pilots the next day, and he confirmed, “Yup, 75 knots is the best we can do."

IMHO, you DO NEED to be able to fly your airplane slowly, if this is required by ATC.

(Warning: Video view rotates 90 degrees to the right at the far end of the runway, halfway through the video. This may be disconcerting.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbbLXDX6BlM&t=14s

Curt Boyll

canards, colorado

On Jul 15, 2018, at 8:05 PM, Steven W. Harmon <sharmon32@...> wrote:

Well I have read the notam several times.   Familiarized myself with all the approaches the 18 lr page 11 seems to be the most complicated landing over runway 9-27.
I am hoping for runway 36 it would be the best no taxing on grass.  I have never come up on a airport at 135 Knts. I always slow down a couple of miles out to 90 to get my gear down.   I hand crank and above 100 knots it is a bear cranking it down.   I will try and get there about 8:00 in the morning Saturday weather permitting I am hoping it will be less crowded.  I know a huge mass flight of some spam cans is supposed to arrive at 11:00 Saturday morning so coming later is a bad idea. See you all in Oshkosh.
Steve build on

Loving life in Idaho  
where living poor on the farm beats being rich in the city

 

Pilot In Command reply: "Unable".

Flying into Falcon Field (FFZ) on a semi hot day, I was cleared to land
22R (3800') straight in. Told tower "I need the long one", he
immediately cleared me for 22L (5100'). PIC has the final say, just
saying :)

Rick

On 7/15/2018 10:24 PM, Curt Boyll curtb442@... [canard-aviators]
wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that even when you fly the 135 kt approach, FISK may
> still decide to put you behind VERY SLOW traffic, if that’s what they
> decide is necessary. In 2017, at 2,300 ft and 135 kts, I was not even
> close to FISK when they said, “Canard, turn right and get behind the
> two biplanes.” … which they also directed East over Fisk Boulevard and
> toward the 36 runways.
>

Tim, I am with you on NOT taxing on the grass.   

A few years ago the ground people directed me on the grass and I ignorantly complied.  The ground was really rough and I ended up taxing into a nice hole which broke one of my wheel pants.   I have never allowed the ground crews to direct me into a grass taxiway again.   If your adamant and refuse to comply as PIC they will always shift you to a hard surface.  I now carry an addition sign in the plane, “NO GRASS TAXI” every time I fly into OSH just in case...

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Charleston, SC www.nickugolini.com  
 
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On Jul 16, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Tim Sullivan <timpvf@...> wrote:

Ground guys are telling me to pull off into the grass on the left, I’m pointing to the taxiway on the right. They keep shaking their heads no. I’m still pointing, their are still shaking. Argh. Alright I go left. Six feet past the edge of pavement I’m stuck in the muck. Oh, did I mention it rained pretty good the night before? So 20 minutes later and a dozen CAP and they lift and push me back in the runway so I could go over to the taxiway I had pointed to in the first place. This should have been no surprise to the ground crew because about 200 yards prior was a 310 stuck deep into the muck. 

Lessons learned, have both freqs loaded up in the radio. As It was said before PIC don’t pull into the grass. 

Tim Sullivan, Placerville CA

On Jul 16, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Tim Sullivan <timpvf@...> wrote:

Ground guys are telling me to pull off into the grass on the left, I’m pointing to the taxiway on the right. They keep shaking their heads no. I’m still pointing, their are still shaking. Argh. Alright I go left. Six feet past the edge of pavement I’m stuck in the muck. Oh, did I mention it rained pretty good the night before? So 20 minutes later and a dozen CAP and they lift and push me back in the runway so I could go over to the taxiway I had pointed to in the first place. This should have been no surprise to the ground crew because about 200 yards prior was a 310 stuck deep into the muck. 

Lessons learned, have both freqs loaded up in the radio. As It was said before PIC don’t pull into the grass. 

Tim Sullivan, Placerville CA