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Re: Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Tom Smith <trcsmith@...>
 

So far it looks like wings will got to Todd


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-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Wiltse via groups.io <EzYoYo@...>
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io <canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2020 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: [c-a] Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Tom:
I would be interested in these VE parts.  When could I take a look at them?  Just sold my # 4 VE to a guy in Flagstaff, AZ.  I am wondering the Museum might be interested in selling/exchanging the VE fuselage for a Q2 or complete Dragonfly III project that could be used for the kid?
Bruce Wiltse
ezyoyo@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Person <ezejoe@...>
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2020 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [c-a] Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Todd,

Just a note: Wings will not likely entail any sort of plug & play interchangeability with your existing set, should a replacement scenario ever arise.

-Joe Person


On Aug 28, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Todd DeVito via groups.io <devitotl@...> wrote:


Hi Tom,

I'm happy to take any available parts off your hands.  I never know what I'll need to replace someday.  The gear retract system, brakes, throttle system, wheels, brakes, wings, wing attachment fittings, canard, engine mount, and anything else they want to get rid of is fine with me.

I'm about 3 hours away from Vacaville, so I can be there just in time to buy you lunch.

Feel free to call me or e-mail me direct to work out the details.

Todd DeVito
devitotl@...
775-297-1654

On Friday, August 28, 2020, 05:45:15 PM PDT, Tom Smith via groups.io <trcsmith@...> wrote:


Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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Re: Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Bruce Wiltse
 

Tom:
I would be interested in these VE parts.  When could I take a look at them?  Just sold my # 4 VE to a guy in Flagstaff, AZ.  I am wondering the Museum might be interested in selling/exchanging the VE fuselage for a Q2 or complete Dragonfly III project that could be used for the kid?
Bruce Wiltse
ezyoyo@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Person <ezejoe@...>
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2020 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [c-a] Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Todd,

Just a note: Wings will not likely entail any sort of plug & play interchangeability with your existing set, should a replacement scenario ever arise.

-Joe Person


On Aug 28, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Todd DeVito via groups.io <devitotl@...> wrote:


Hi Tom,

I'm happy to take any available parts off your hands.  I never know what I'll need to replace someday.  The gear retract system, brakes, throttle system, wheels, brakes, wings, wing attachment fittings, canard, engine mount, and anything else they want to get rid of is fine with me.

I'm about 3 hours away from Vacaville, so I can be there just in time to buy you lunch.

Feel free to call me or e-mail me direct to work out the details.

Todd DeVito
devitotl@...
775-297-1654

On Friday, August 28, 2020, 05:45:15 PM PDT, Tom Smith via groups.io <trcsmith@...> wrote:


Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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Long-EZ N12TS
Cell-707-592-0869
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KJ6PZN
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Re: Varieze Brake Bleeding

Phil Kriley
 

Not 1.5 to 3 turns, but 1.5 to 3 turns PAST finger tight.

Phil Kriley

On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Todd DeVito via groups.io <devitotl@...> wrote:

Thanks.  Knowing I need to screw them in 1.5 - 3 turns is extremely helpful.

I just ordered some thread sealant.

Todd

On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 04:30:11 PM PDT, Marc J. Zeitlin <marc.j.zeitlin@...> wrote:


Todd DeVito wrote:

The bleed nipples I received have about twice as much thread as the plugs that were in the hole.  I'm guessing I should just screw them in until they are tight, even if threads are still showing.  Is that right?

Assuming that you've got calipers with standard 1/8" NPT threads, you screw them in 1.5 - 3 turns past finger tight, or about 12 in-lb.
 
Also, is it a good idea or a bad idea to wrap the threads in teflon tape before I screw them in?

It's a bad idea to use teflon tape on ANY fluid connection on an airplane, as a poor installation can easily allow a small piece of torn tape to clog the line. I only recommend teflon NPT thread sealant:


You can generally get the equivalent at a local auto parts store. You don't need much - one thread's worth, 1 - 2 threads up from the bottom (so you don't get sealant into the fitting) works fine.

--
Marc J. Zeitlin                      marc_zeitlin@...
                                            http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright © 2020                     Burnside Aerospace


Re: Varieze Brake Bleeding

Todd DeVito
 

Thanks.  Knowing I need to screw them in 1.5 - 3 turns is extremely helpful.

I just ordered some thread sealant.

Todd

On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 04:30:11 PM PDT, Marc J. Zeitlin <marc.j.zeitlin@...> wrote:


Todd DeVito wrote:

The bleed nipples I received have about twice as much thread as the plugs that were in the hole.  I'm guessing I should just screw them in until they are tight, even if threads are still showing.  Is that right?

Assuming that you've got calipers with standard 1/8" NPT threads, you screw them in 1.5 - 3 turns past finger tight, or about 12 in-lb.
 
Also, is it a good idea or a bad idea to wrap the threads in teflon tape before I screw them in?

It's a bad idea to use teflon tape on ANY fluid connection on an airplane, as a poor installation can easily allow a small piece of torn tape to clog the line. I only recommend teflon NPT thread sealant:


You can generally get the equivalent at a local auto parts store. You don't need much - one thread's worth, 1 - 2 threads up from the bottom (so you don't get sealant into the fitting) works fine.

--
Marc J. Zeitlin                      marc_zeitlin@...
                                            http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright © 2020                     Burnside Aerospace


Re: Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Todd DeVito
 

I understand that, but the hardware and components from the wings could be of use even if the wings wouldn't bolt on.


On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 03:19:30 PM PDT, Joe Person <ezejoe@...> wrote:


Todd,

Just a note: Wings will not likely entail any sort of plug & play interchangeability with your existing set, should a replacement scenario ever arise.

-Joe Person


On Aug 28, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Todd DeVito via groups.io <devitotl@...> wrote:


Hi Tom,

I'm happy to take any available parts off your hands.  I never know what I'll need to replace someday.  The gear retract system, brakes, throttle system, wheels, brakes, wings, wing attachment fittings, canard, engine mount, and anything else they want to get rid of is fine with me.

I'm about 3 hours away from Vacaville, so I can be there just in time to buy you lunch.

Feel free to call me or e-mail me direct to work out the details.

Todd DeVito
devitotl@...
775-297-1654

On Friday, August 28, 2020, 05:45:15 PM PDT, Tom Smith via groups.io <trcsmith@...> wrote:


Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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Tom Smith  A&P/IA
Long-EZ N12TS
Cell-707-592-0869
KVCB
KJ6PZN
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Re: Varieze Brake Bleeding

Marc J. Zeitlin
 

Todd DeVito wrote:

The bleed nipples I received have about twice as much thread as the plugs that were in the hole.  I'm guessing I should just screw them in until they are tight, even if threads are still showing.  Is that right?

Assuming that you've got calipers with standard 1/8" NPT threads, you screw them in 1.5 - 3 turns past finger tight, or about 12 in-lb.
 
Also, is it a good idea or a bad idea to wrap the threads in teflon tape before I screw them in?

It's a bad idea to use teflon tape on ANY fluid connection on an airplane, as a poor installation can easily allow a small piece of torn tape to clog the line. I only recommend teflon NPT thread sealant:


You can generally get the equivalent at a local auto parts store. You don't need much - one thread's worth, 1 - 2 threads up from the bottom (so you don't get sealant into the fitting) works fine.

--
Marc J. Zeitlin                      marc_zeitlin@...
                                            http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright © 2020                     Burnside Aerospace


Re: Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Joe Person
 

Todd,

Just a note: Wings will not likely entail any sort of plug & play interchangeability with your existing set, should a replacement scenario ever arise.

-Joe Person


On Aug 28, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Todd DeVito via groups.io <devitotl@...> wrote:


Hi Tom,

I'm happy to take any available parts off your hands.  I never know what I'll need to replace someday.  The gear retract system, brakes, throttle system, wheels, brakes, wings, wing attachment fittings, canard, engine mount, and anything else they want to get rid of is fine with me.

I'm about 3 hours away from Vacaville, so I can be there just in time to buy you lunch.

Feel free to call me or e-mail me direct to work out the details.

Todd DeVito
devitotl@...
775-297-1654

On Friday, August 28, 2020, 05:45:15 PM PDT, Tom Smith via groups.io <trcsmith@...> wrote:


Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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Tom Smith  A&P/IA
Long-EZ N12TS
Cell-707-592-0869
KVCB
KJ6PZN
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ADS-B and trasponder antennas measured with new nanoVNA network analyzer

Del Schier
 

Hi all,

 

A few weeks ago I got a 4” display nanoVNA to measure antennas in my airplane or any antenna I might use.  I wanted to measure my ADS-B in antennas on my Stratux but I had to order an adaptor to connect them, so here are my results.

 

There is a picture of one of my $0 30 min J-Pole antennas that I made from an online design tool.  They are just bondo-ed in place either corner of the Cozy nose hatch in front of the rudder pedals. I never tested them but they have been working great with the Stratux and Foreflight.  The “R ADS-B SWR.jpg” pic shows the VNA display and the “L…” the Left.

 

Both test pretty well for SWR with < 2:1 VSWR.  I am sure I could make them better by adjusting the length and the coax connection point. They work well enough that I would not notice a difference. I didn’t do that also because I have no idea how to tell which is on what frequency with the Stratux.

 

I also attached the plot of my Mode C ¼ wave whip mounted through the bottom right of the nose with a full wave dia. ground plane.  That tested as expected with such a simple antenna.

 

The 7/8 wavelength J-pole antenna couldn’t be any cheaper or easier to make and it doesn’t need a balun, and it has about 2 dB of gain over a dipole or ¼ wave ground plane, and, of course, it could be used for ADS-B out or a Mode C transponder.

 

I learned something for those of you that got nanoVNAs.  I couldn’t get it to calibrate until I Googled the problem.  I found that you have to do a reset first!  Another good tip is once you have it all set up for the desired frequency range, calibrated and markers set you can save that in memory “0” and it will save everything as the default start up.

 

Del Schier

Cozy IV N197DL

Cannon Creek Airpark 15FL

 


Re: The Potentially Revolutionary Celera 500L Aircraft Officially Breaks Cover - The Drive

KEN4ZZ
 

Hi Kevin-

Many thanks for publishing the photos and the link to the CAFÉ research page.  When I checked out the page, I noticed the link on it to the reports about the various CAFÉ 400 races thru the years.  As you no doubt know, the first one in 1981 was actually 250 (vs. 400) miles. That's the one in which I flew my - still flying - geriatric VariEze, N4ZZ.  When I checked the report out it was quite the stroll down memory lane, seeing familiar names and tail numbers from nearly 4 decades ago.  It's even easy (for me) to recognize mine in the picture of the Ezes by my first iteration Scimitar prop.  I had cleanly forgotten I'd placed so high, just 2 out of the money.  Good times!

Ken

On 8/28/2020 12:10 PM, Kevin R. Walsh wrote:
I've been loosely following this aircraft since the first pictures were published.  It was interesting to me because it has a very similar fuselage profile to the wheel pant mold I made for my Cozy IV.  That shape was first published by Fabio R. Goldschmied in work he was doing on low drag bodies for airships from the 50s through the 70s.  you can see some of the CAFE Foundation papers on those shapes and research here:

I took the X-35 coordinates and adjusted them to fit the wheels & brakes of the Cozy IV, and did some CFD analysis of it, which you can see here:

And you can see the mold I made on a CNC router here:

and one half of a finished wheel pant in carbon fiber here:

Unfortunately, life got in the way and I still fly my Cozy with no pants.  Well, no wheel pants at least.  I will say that a CFD comparison of drag forces at 180 Knots between this and a "standard" wheel pant shape yielded less than 1% difference in drag just for the pant & gear leg.  Which means that without a true side-by-side comparison between the two on the same plane under the same conditions, we'll never know if I spent a lot of time for nothing.  At least it is fun to talk about when people look and ask why my wheel pants look so funny.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 9:16 AM Bob Holliston <bob.holliston@...> wrote:


--
Kevin


Re: Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Tom Smith <trcsmith@...>
 

I'll check about other parts. Wheels brakes I'm sure stay. They need them to move it around.




Tom Smith  A&P/IA
Long-EZ N12TS
Cell-707-592-0869
KVCB
KJ6PZN


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd DeVito via groups.io <devitotl@...>
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io <canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2020 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: [c-a] Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Hi Tom,

I'm happy to take any available parts off your hands.  I never know what I'll need to replace someday.  The gear retract system, brakes, throttle system, wheels, brakes, wings, wing attachment fittings, canard, engine mount, and anything else they want to get rid of is fine with me.

I'm about 3 hours away from Vacaville, so I can be there just in time to buy you lunch.

Feel free to call me or e-mail me direct to work out the details.

Todd DeVito
devitotl@...
775-297-1654

On Friday, August 28, 2020, 05:45:15 PM PDT, Tom Smith via groups.io <trcsmith@...> wrote:


Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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Tom Smith  A&P/IA
Long-EZ N12TS
Cell-707-592-0869
KVCB
KJ6PZN


Re: Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Tom Smith <trcsmith@...>
 

I'll ask, but they said they wanted the fuselage.


Tom Smith  A&P/IA
Long-EZ N12TS
Cell-707-592-0869
KVCB
KJ6PZN


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryszard Zadow <ryszardzadow@...>
To: canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2020 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: [c-a] Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

This is sad, especially that a “museum” is doing this. The Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience would love to have that because our mission is to “Preserve and Promote Rutan designs...”  Cutting up an airplane that could be made flying is sacrilegious. 

The best way to “Preserve and Promote..” is by making airplanes fly. We’ve rescued once flying airplanes from languishing in garages and hangars and rescued projects just like this one.    To date RAFE has paired two people with projects that they pledge to finish and get flying. 

If there’s any chance to save this please contact RutanAFE@... 

Ryszard Zadow
Founder and President
Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience 
www.RutanAFE.org 


On Aug 28, 2020, at 19:45, Tom Smith via groups.io <trcsmith@...> wrote:


Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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Re: Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Todd DeVito
 

Hi Tom,

I'm happy to take any available parts off your hands.  I never know what I'll need to replace someday.  The gear retract system, brakes, throttle system, wheels, brakes, wings, wing attachment fittings, canard, engine mount, and anything else they want to get rid of is fine with me.

I'm about 3 hours away from Vacaville, so I can be there just in time to buy you lunch.

Feel free to call me or e-mail me direct to work out the details.

Todd DeVito
devitotl@...
775-297-1654

On Friday, August 28, 2020, 05:45:15 PM PDT, Tom Smith via groups.io <trcsmith@...> wrote:


Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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IMG_9559.JPG



Tom Smith  A&P/IA
Long-EZ N12TS
Cell-707-592-0869
KVCB
KJ6PZN


Re: Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Ryszard Zadow
 

This is sad, especially that a “museum” is doing this. The Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience would love to have that because our mission is to “Preserve and Promote Rutan designs...”  Cutting up an airplane that could be made flying is sacrilegious. 

The best way to “Preserve and Promote..” is by making airplanes fly. We’ve rescued once flying airplanes from languishing in garages and hangars and rescued projects just like this one.    To date RAFE has paired two people with projects that they pledge to finish and get flying. 

If there’s any chance to save this please contact RutanAFE@... 

Ryszard Zadow
Founder and President
Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience 
www.RutanAFE.org 


On Aug 28, 2020, at 19:45, Tom Smith via groups.io <trcsmith@...> wrote:


Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them?

Tom Smith <trcsmith@...>
 

Veri easy wings and canard, who will take them? I was offered these parts from the Vacaville airport, CA  VCB on field museum. They have been in a hanger at Nuttree for several years. Don't know who the builder was. The fuselage they want to keep and convert for kids to have their picture taken after mods for lights, switches and some old instruments installed. So, if you would like to inspect the wings and canard for your project come look. From what I can tell "I'm a Long EZ builder not a Veri builder. The workmanship looks good. But it's a different wing from the LEZ. If the wing attach fittings are important I can cut them off the fuselage and the new owner can clean off the composite material form them. Nose gear retract system should be available if needed. The Brock throttle system is also there, not sure if that will go or not, I'll ask.  If you come get them, then buy me lunch. If I need to remove the fuselage to wing fittings there would be a small charge to cut them off, because I would need to replace the foam and glass to build back the area so the the cowl fits with smooth corners per the museum future requirements.

Any questions please ask.


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Tom Smith  A&P/IA
Long-EZ N12TS
Cell-707-592-0869
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Re: Varieze Brake Bleeding

Todd DeVito
 

I just received my bleed nipples from Aircraft Spruce and having never plumbed a brake system before, I'm going to ask a couple of simple questions before I do something stupid.

The bleed nipples I received have about twice as much thread as the plugs that were in the hole.  I'm guessing I should just screw them in until they are tight, even if threads are still showing.  Is that right?

Also, is it a good idea or a bad idea to wrap the threads in teflon tape before I screw them in?

As always, thanks for your help.

Todd

On Friday, August 21, 2020, 03:17:56 AM PDT, Mike Tooze via groups.io <miketooze@...> wrote:


Hi Todd,

Just to clear up from my original post.
Gary Hunter is right in that the original Rosenham axles were aluminium; this was widely reported at the time. I purchased a set of steel replacements, but didn’t fit them quite in time as I had an axle fail a week or two after I received the new ones!
I didn’t raise the condition of the discs in your photo as they appeared to me to be covered in some sort of preservative grease/wax etc. Simply clean and assess their condition. As long as they are in plain, flat, and not too worn, thin, a few pits won’t matter.
Certainly everything needs disassembly for a good clean-up and inspection but ‘if it works don’t fix it’.
Yes, you will need those cap screws, bleed nipple, and the heat barrier (aluminized blanket, non-asbestos hi temp silicone and/or wired in place). However, change for change sake is not particularly a philosophy I would back. Few of us are in that position.
I test flew my Vari in 1982 and we are still flying, Nylo Seal and all. (I’m on the steel axles and my second set of Matco discs.) My runway limit, around SL to 2k’, is about 600m/2,000ft but I use far less.

BTW your tires appear to be the 3.40x 3.00x5 Shins, which I use. What with these and the Matco’s you have the possibility of making a sleek set of wheel pants, not like the balloons seen on so many Ezes. ;^)
I suggest that you try what you have before splashing out just because of a bit of age-accumulated dirt.
If it taxis well and you run-in a set of new pads ok, then you’re set to go.
We’d all be interested in a report back.

Mike Tooze
O-235 Vari Eze
Amongst other things I’ll be checking my tyre pressures at the weekend so will try to take a photo of my set-up.





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From: "Todd DeVito via groups.io" <devitotl@...>
To: "canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io" <canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, 21 Aug, 20 At 02:55
Subject: Re: [c-a] Varieze Brake Bleeding

Thanks to everyone for the great responses. It's great to know the brand of calipers I have, and even better that you passed along the part number for the bleeder assembly and pads. It's also good to know about the possible axle issues. I'll be searching the CPs and CSA newsletters for information about Rosenhan brakes.

I will also be searching the CPs and CSA newsletters for information on installing a thermal shield. I have seen some stories about the consequences of not having one, but have not looked into building one yet.

Interestingly, the brown on the brake disc is not corrosion. It is some sticky, tar like substance. Once I'm sure the system holds fluid, I'll have to take the brakes apart and clean all of that gunk off and also see if the pads are contaminated.

Thanks also for the Grove ordering information. Depending on how these brakes perform, I may go in that direction.

I have also wondered if the tires on this plane are adequate. I do not like the idea of landing on tires that are not appropriate for the purpose. Before I bring my Eze to the hangar for it's first test drive, I'll make sure it has the correct tires.

Finally, if anyone has a picture of this model of brakes on their Eze, I would love to see a copy.

Thanks again for all the information.

Todd

On Thursday, August 20, 2020, 03:47:28 AM PDT, Mike Tooze via groups.io <miketooze@...> wrote:


Hi Todd,


From your picture I would say that your brake assembly is an Rosenham, became Matco, the same as I have on my Vari Eze.

What you may need is an ACS p/n 11225 Brake Bleeder Assembly, it just screws into the hole in the bottom of the caliper.


Other comments. The disk normally has three counter bored holes for three hex cap screws, wire locked to wiring holes in the disk, just visible in your pici. Therefore those existing bolts should come out and be replaced by caps screws. (See ACS 'socket head cap screw alloy steel-drilled, coarse thread'.). You may find that the counter bores for the cap screws are on the other side of the disc as fitted, in which case you will need to reverse the disc.

A reflective heat shield between the disc and gear leg is essential; also I wrap my Nylo Seal tubing and fittings with the same heat reflective/insulative material.

If/when you replace the pads, RA66-106-4K brake kit, you will have to order additional 1/8” by 3/8” long brake pad rivets as the rivets in the kit are for Cleveland and too short.

I use DOT5 brake fluid but ensure that it only ever touches the inside of your brake system/tubing. i.e. Never, anywhere, on your Eze or even in your workshop!


I have found that my brakes perfectly sufficient for my Vari Eze. (I use 'dynamic braking', nose wheel 'off' till the last moment without banging it down.)

Just what I have/do - OMV.


All the very best for your project.

Sincerely,

Mike Tooze

O-235 Vari Eze







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From: "Todd DeVito via groups.io" <devitotl@...>
To: "Canard Aviators" <canard-aviators@canardzone.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, 20 Aug, 20 At 03:00
Subject: [c-a] Varieze Brake Bleeding

Hello Everyone,

This is a picture of the left wheel and brake on my Varieze project. The problem is I can't see a nipple to bleed it with. Is anyone familiar with this type of caliper and can you fill me in on how to bleed it? On the bottom right of the caliper is an allen head screw. When I removed the screw and used a mirror to look into the hole, it leads into the bottom of the caliper, but there was no nipple attached.

I didn't find any names or part numbers on the brake caliper, but the master cylinder is a Grove part #675-3, manufactured in 12/06.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Todd DeVito







Re: The Potentially Revolutionary Celera 500L Aircraft Officially Breaks Cover - The Drive

Bill Allen
 

The best of luck to them, and anyone bringing 3 new Aviation technologies to market at the same time. New airframe, new engine and new transmission.
Here’s the engine; 

The driveshaft to a pusher propeller has been tried before with mixed results on the BD5, the LearFan and the Grinwalds Orion. Others are available.
 Torsional harmonics are a terrible thing.

Having been involved in developing new power plants in aircraft (Norton Rotary MWE110 and Wilksch diesel) I’m amazed at the ingenuity of the fickle finger of fate in coming up with left-field failure modes that a good writer of suspense fiction couldn’t dream up.

Bill Allen
CZ4, LED, VE.

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Re: The Potentially Revolutionary Celera 500L Aircraft Officially Breaks Cover - The Drive

Vance Atkinson
 

Kev,

Hang in there bud.... If we don't even try stuff you'll never know if it makes a difference. 


Vance Atkinson





On 8/28/2020 12:10 PM, Kevin R. Walsh wrote:
I've been loosely following this aircraft since the first pictures were published.  It was interesting to me because it has a very similar fuselage profile to the wheel pant mold I made for my Cozy IV.  That shape was first published by Fabio R. Goldschmied in work he was doing on low drag bodies for airships from the 50s through the 70s.  you can see some of the CAFE Foundation papers on those shapes and research here:

I took the X-35 coordinates and adjusted them to fit the wheels & brakes of the Cozy IV, and did some CFD analysis of it, which you can see here:

And you can see the mold I made on a CNC router here:

and one half of a finished wheel pant in carbon fiber here:

Unfortunately, life got in the way and I still fly my Cozy with no pants.  Well, no wheel pants at least.  I will say that a CFD comparison of drag forces at 180 Knots between this and a "standard" wheel pant shape yielded less than 1% difference in drag just for the pant & gear leg.  Which means that without a true side-by-side comparison between the two on the same plane under the same conditions, we'll never know if I spent a lot of time for nothing.  At least it is fun to talk about when people look and ask why my wheel pants look so funny.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 9:16 AM Bob Holliston <bob.holliston@...> wrote:


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ELT

Bob Holliston
 

This morning I posted that I don't have my ELT mounted, just in the baggage so I can turn it on before the crash to be SURE it's on. Well... I just got a (free) copy of Aviation Consumer with a huge article about ELT's with lots of stats. The search duration for 121.5 MHz beacons is 14.2 hours. For 406 models it's 11.8 hours. For 406 models equipped with GPS position input it's only two hours. 98.6 % of ELT alerts are false alarms. Also in about half of fatal crashes the ELT DID NOT ACTIVATE.  

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Re: The Potentially Revolutionary Celera 500L Aircraft Officially Breaks Cover - The Drive

Kevin R. Walsh
 

I've been loosely following this aircraft since the first pictures were published.  It was interesting to me because it has a very similar fuselage profile to the wheel pant mold I made for my Cozy IV.  That shape was first published by Fabio R. Goldschmied in work he was doing on low drag bodies for airships from the 50s through the 70s.  you can see some of the CAFE Foundation papers on those shapes and research here:

I took the X-35 coordinates and adjusted them to fit the wheels & brakes of the Cozy IV, and did some CFD analysis of it, which you can see here:

And you can see the mold I made on a CNC router here:

and one half of a finished wheel pant in carbon fiber here:

Unfortunately, life got in the way and I still fly my Cozy with no pants.  Well, no wheel pants at least.  I will say that a CFD comparison of drag forces at 180 Knots between this and a "standard" wheel pant shape yielded less than 1% difference in drag just for the pant & gear leg.  Which means that without a true side-by-side comparison between the two on the same plane under the same conditions, we'll never know if I spent a lot of time for nothing.  At least it is fun to talk about when people look and ask why my wheel pants look so funny.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 9:16 AM Bob Holliston <bob.holliston@...> wrote:



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Re: The Potentially Revolutionary Celera 500L Aircraft Officially Breaks Cover - The Drive

Cameron Garner
 

Here's the official website too: https://www.ottoaviation.com/celera-500l
Fascinating, and it appears they are using every drag-reducing and efficiency trick in the book.
I'm skeptical about the air taxi market, we've seen this show before with the Eclipse 500, though this one might have a better chance, and the economics should be a lot better.



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