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Re: Fuel tanks
Al Wick <alwick@...>
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As others have described, this is bad decision. Yes, it eliminates initial
debris risk, but you need to do lot's of sanding on strakes in future. This
sanding forces you to recess fuel cap below flush, or suffer ugly surface
finish. Oops, now you will have year after year of water pooling over your fuel
cap. Fine dirt gathering there too. Your plane will always be at higher risk of
water contamination than planes with caps flush or above flush. I too made this
oversight when installing my first fuel cap. I had to reinstall it later flush
to strake.
Appreciate the good suggestions regarding fuel cap
install. It's remarkable how important this simple build item is. Follow the
excellent suggestions for cutting hole without debris, and you just knocked off
the highest risk item we've had. But there's more! Install cap flush or above,
you just knocked off another significant failure.
But hold it! There's ANOTHER significant factor. I
didn't realize the full nature of this factor until long after I built my plane.
The hole location makes a big difference. Loss of fuel cap is not unusual. Even
though cap is tethered. Cap occasionally hits prop. So prop damage risk drops
the further hole is from the fuselage. The risk is in the form of a bell
shaped curve, so the further from fuselage, the better...............Oh, but
wait. If we also consider the cap distance from leading edge, we find another
bell shaped curve. The further from the leading edge, the less suction on fuel
cap. By placing cap as close to spar as possible, we eliminate risk of fuel
being sucked out of tank when cap left off. Take a look at any pressure
distribution above a wing.
I've always been fascinated by failure patterns. Never
would have expected such such a simple item could improve safety so much.
-Al Wick
Cozy IV powered by Turbo Subaru 3.0R. Computer monitoring improves safety, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, Oregon Glass panel design, Subaru install, Prop construct, Risk assessment info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
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Re: Engine failure?
Tom
Hi All:
Just a note from my Metallurgical engineering classes years ago. My professor was often an expert witness at lawsuits involving crankshaft failures. He reported that cranks most often fail in fatigue with the first power reduction after takeoff. So use the info as you will, but I wait a little longer to pull the power back after takeoff because of this, and I pull the power back gently. Tom Brown
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Re: Cancellation of Rutan Trubute flyby. Attn: Mr. Poberezny, Mr. Knapi...
cozygirrrl
Pats Right. Its not that the wagon is broken, the steering is buggered up,
or at least the committee steering it has their collective heads up somewhere
that does not reflect the desires of its constituency, or does it?
We could be entirely wrong and based on input received they have found
the direction they are going in to be fully in line with the wishes of the
greater membership, if this is the case then we have no further beef other than
its time to grow up, things have changed and moved on, in which case then yes it
would be time to consider other options.
We already have a strong group, the CSA. We have a magazine, active online
forum(s) and an annual fly-in at Rough River. It is good, we have a great time
and I don't believe it needs fixing or improving.
The only reason to start something new in addition to what we already have
is for the benefit of the greater community, or is it to pull enough membership
out of the EAA that they hear our voices?
If I could make one small tiny change to the EAA it would be this: give it
back to the membership via surveys and voting. Find out where we want it to go
and vote on it. We do not need local representatives or any of that political
silliness, that only promotes ass hats to find a new calling in life.
Let the membership steer the EAA, not greed, glory or the greater good.
Chrissi &
Randi www.CozyGirrrl.com CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop
In a message dated 8/10/2011 10:40:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
panzera@... writes:
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[DEFIANT FLYERS] EAA, AirVenture - Another Perspective
Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
From another canard e-mail list...
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jim Rodrian <Jim.Rodrian@...> Date: Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:04 AM Subject: [DEFIANT FLYERS] EAA, AirVenture - Another Perspective To: defiantflyers@... Cc: Adam Smith <asmith@...>, Dick Knapinski <dknapinski@...>, Charlie Becker <cbecker@...>, Sean Elliott <selliott@...>, Jane Smith <jsmith@...> Years ago, a gentleman with a four digit EAA number, explained to me why EAA is a good
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Re: Cancellation of Rutan Trubute flyby. Attn: Mr. Poberezny, Mr. Knapinski and Mr. Smith
Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:19 PM, JohntenHave <johntenhave@...> wrote: Actually Pat, ...until you fix it. We have the ability to fix this. I'm not willing to give up.
Pat
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jackie a long ez
RICK
Does anyone have any pictures of how to jack up a
Long Ez? Thanks!
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Vacuum pump
R Martinson
I have an industrial strength vacuum pump, excellent for vacuum bagging. It is meant to be run 24/7. It is used but has plenty of life left. $75 + $15 shipping.
Email for pictures. Thanks, Rob R Martinson VE - N6LK aka Race 66 LE - N4281X Evergreen, CO
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Electric seat heater.
R Martinson
I have an electric seat heater with 2 elements (one for seat, one for back) with switch, fuse and all wiring. New. $50+postage.
email for pictures if interested. Thanks, Rob R Martinson VE - N6LK aka Race 66 LE - N4281X Evergreen, CO
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EAA
Chris Wade <hotlicks13@...>
EAA seems to view themselves as a Lobby Group.
Good for political influence. Sport aviation is an OK magazine. I like Kit Planes better. I used to be a member of EAA and served in the administration in the local chapter. At the local level, it was a good builder support group. The national org. was supportive for their Young Eagles events. They sponsored the West Coast Kick-off at KSMO back in the 90's. We got to know some of the officials and they were always helpful. Personal contacts are the best way to communicate. If you don't like the organization, do something else.
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Re: Cancellation of Rutan Trubute flyby. Attn: Mr. Poberezny, Mr. Knapinski and Mr. Smith
Jim Weir
OOOh, Lynn...this is bad juju. In a closely allied field to homebuilt aircraft, amateur radio, the letters SK generally are reserved to mean "Silent Key". That is, a person who is no longer with us on this planet in body.
Just thought you'd like to know. {;-)
Jim
************************** Lynn Canatella Xtra EZ N541SL And EZ N2424SK
If you cannot convince them, confuse them. Harry Truman
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Re: Jim Wier? Rutan Cancelation
Jim Weir
Jim Weir (note the correct spelling) has chosen to give back to his community by teaching the next generation of scientists and engineers at the local community college. His company (RST Engineering) is still in business supplying homebuilders with kit avionics and kit antennas. And he still writes a monthly column for Kitplanes Magazine.
In politics, he spent 8 years as a county supervisor (or whatever your state calls them), and is currently the vice-president of the faculty association at the college and the state treasurer of the state community college association.
He ain't hurtin' for work.
Thanks,
Jim
If you cannot convince them, confuse them. Harry Truman
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Re: EAA, AirVenture - Another Perspective
Elwood Johnson
I also was interviewed. Chose not to fly in the review. However I had a great time at OSH and agree with your comments Jim. EJ Johnson
On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:08 AM, "Jim Rodrian" <Jim.Rodrian@...> wrote:
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Re: Experimental Scratchbuilt Aviation & Pilots association
Elwood Johnson
Well said. Hope those who read it remember get involved then start complaining. EJ Johnson
On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:50 AM, ARGOLDMAN@... wrote:
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Re: Cancellation of Rutan Trubute flyby. Attn: Mr.Poberezny, Mr. Knapinski and Mr. Smith [html][heur][bcc][faked-from][mx]
David A Froble
Pat Panzera wrote:
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Ryszard <ryszardzadow@att.net <mailto:ryszardzadow@att.net>> wrote:Patrick is correct. Look around you. Observe how large organizations with members are hijacked by a minority. Actually, not just large organizations, just about anything run by more than a single person. (Long live the king.) :-) Example: A flying club, with a Cessna 172, owned by members, located at airport A. Some of the more active members wanted to move it to airport B. Since they were more active, they were the ones who attended meetings. At one meeting they voted to move the aircraft. Most of the less active members were not happy with the move. Did the unhappy members show up at the next meeting and reverse the decision? No, they instead quit in disgust. With these people leaving the flying club, the people in favor of the move not only kept the aircraft at airport B, but also gained ownership when the other members quit. The majority of the members quit. I could also mention about how presidential candidates are chosen, but let's pretty much leave politics out of this, as much as possible. Not entirely, because politics is at the core of the issue. EAA politics. The problems, as I see them, are: 1) Canard builders, and fliers, are far from a majority of EAA members. Just a note, I've seen posts about getting back to home building, but, how many flying canards actually built them ???? 2) Many EAA members are happy to have their local chapters, and don't get involved in national issues. 3) Perhaps the majority of EAA members are happy with the status quo. Look at the recent post from Jack Horner. From the way I read it, he disrespects just about everything at Oshkosh except the warbirds, and I believe he flys a canard. 4) How many canard aviators really would get into EAA politics? My bet is most just want to vent, but won't do anything about things, sort of like the citizens of the USA. (Dave Froble for president, and I'll fix all the problems, but, you'll probably assassinate me for doing what needs to be done.) Patrick is correct, quitting is just admitting that you lost. If you really care, get involved, and attempt to change things. -- David Froble Tel: 724-529-0450 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc. E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc. 170 Grimplin Road Vanderbilt, PA 15486
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Jim Wier? Rutan Cancelation
Ken Brimmer <kbrimmer@...>
As an old geezer I was trying to
recall what happened to Jim Wier. I and many others of the older builders
may recall that Jim Wier, the maker of the home builders intercom kit,
once tried to be on the EAA board. He was turned down and after that
he seemed to have dropped interest in the home building community. I built
his kit and used his antenna system. (After 18 years they are still
working fine although I understand that his support has disappeared). I
remember he did a lot of testing of his kits and it was all for the home builder
market. I remember at the time thinking that he would be a good
representative as his work and research were all directed to the home
builders.
Look the EAA is a voluntary
organization. You do not have to join. If it does not represent your
views or give you some service you should leave, unless you get some enjoyment
in just holding the membership card. The AOPA well represents us once we
get to be flyers of our airplanes. In fact if you plan on going out of the
country their help is invaluable. Almost all the
"homebuilder" assistance I have gotten over the years is from Terry
Schubert's Central States News Letter. Also I get some from the Cozy
and Canard Aviators emails.
The trouble with the emails is
that some of the information is too broad or in a few cases unreliable. If
we had to have one person to represent us as a group it would be Terry, but like
Jim Wier, he would never be accepted by the ruling body of EAA. But that
is alrignt as long as we get his Newsletter. The only thing
that we seem to be saying is that we wanted a little recognition from EAA by
recognizing Burt. If Rough River was just a little bigger I bet we could
get over a hundred planes in there and do a real "thank you" to
Burt . I will be hanging the earphones up soon so it is up to the
newer builders to make the changes they want, but it does seem that the flying
"ducks" do seem to want something. You just have to decide what you
want. See you at RR.
Ken Brimmer, Cozy III, IO320,1300hrs, 18
yrs. Easton, MD (ESN) Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude. - De Tocqueville - 1840
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Re: EAA, AirVenture - Another Perspective
Jim Rodrian
Years ago, a gentleman with a four digit EAA number, explained to me why EAA is a good organization. His simple explanation: It is an organization for anyone who has a passion or interest in aviation. Ray “went West” a few years ago but before he did he built several aircraft from plans and several aircraft from kits including fixed and rotary wing aircraft. His success as an entrepreneur allowed him to restore and fly a T-28.
This was the second year I flew my Defiant to Oshkosh. On Sunday July 24th, purely by chance, my wife had a brief conversation with Lori from the video crew that filmed all of the AOPA Live interviews. As a result of that brief conversation, AOPA Live interviewed my wife, my son and myself. The interviews happened at random, unplanned and unscripted! If interested, you can find the interview at: http://www.aopa.org/aopalive/index.cfm?watch=phbWRwMjrKvjbsZV3RSFRt1kiQ3m1SP5#latest=1 or go to www.aopa.org/aopalive and search for “Defiant family.”
FYI: I was one of two Defiant builder / pilot’s scheduled to fly in the Rutan tribute. I (my plane) was also selected by the Home Built Review committee to fly in the Home Built Review on Friday, July 29th. My Defiant was one of twenty-two Home Builts (one of three canards) to fly in the review.
Jim Rodrian Defiant N403R Grafton, WI
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Re: Experimental Scratchbuilt Aviation & Pilots association
ARGOLDMAN@...
Hey-- great idea,
but that would leave the Velocity and Aerocanard folk out-- oh, they
probably wouldn't want to belong, anyway. And what about the hybrids, ie. those
Cozy folks that used some Aerocanard parts?
Then , of course, you would have to have various sections of the new
organization indicating the percent of the project that the member actually
built. Few of these aircraft are finished by the original builder. So you could
break it up into quarters. 25% for one group, 50% for the other, 75% for the
next, and of course the "best and most powerful group" the 100%ers. Each group
could then discriminate against and complain about the other group's
power.
There could even be an additional group for those who built their own
avionics, divided into two, those that built from scratch and those who built
theirs from kits.
And what about painting. We could further divide the group by those who
painted themselves and those who had their aircraft professionally painted...
and then there is the upholstery.
A further division is those who modified the plans and those who went
exactly according to plans.
Don't even mention the various engine groups.
A composite group, tube and rag, metal, wood.
To satisfy everybody in the group, you would have to have groups of 1
person.
 This is by no means an endorsement of EAA, but when you design a new group,
it may be important to have it inclusive, not exclusive, less it exclude
itself.
By the way, how many of you have ever voted for anybody on the board of
directors or created groups to try to move this organization in the way you want
it to.
Rich
In a message dated 8/9/2011 6:14:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
dapslp@... writes:
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Re: Cancellation of Rutan Trubute flyby
Bruce Sturgill
Ryszard> Well, the fat lady isn't singing just yet, you still have another opportunity to do a tribute to Burt – Rough River! Why not show the EAA and the rest of the world what the canard community can do besides write letters (which are important) and rant on forums (helps get the blood flowing to take action). This action can be done now, changing EAA thinking, that will take time, maybe it'll never happen. What an opportunity to stand up and be counted, as they say. Surely with the contacts this group has, a fly-by or more could be put together for RR. Start with who you know for sure that will be there and build on that, KISS. Then you have another reason to invite Burt and Mike to RR besides good golf. Just thinking out loud. :-) So, as the platoon is standing in formation mumbling and the CO asks, "any volunteers for this mission?" As I step forward, "Sir, I'm just a "private" pilot building a LongEZ, but, I'm willing to help in any way I can". Thanks "private", anyone else? Best regards, Bruce Sturgill www.pursuitofflight.com
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Re: Cancellation of Rutan Trubute flyby. Attn: Mr. Poberezny, Mr. Knapinski and Mr. Smith
John ten
Actually Pat,
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it is neither right or wrong. It just happens to differ from your view of the world. Continuing to support/empower/endorse/pay for the actions of those who no longer serve the greater good is daft. Walking away is completely valid. A broken wagon full of good people is still useless.... Cheers John
--- In canard-aviators@yahoogroups.com, Pat Panzera <panzera@...> wrote:
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Re: Cancellation of Rutan Trubute flyby. Attn: Mr. Poberezny, Mr. Knapinski and Mr. Smith
Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Ryszard <ryszardzadow@...> wrote:
The wrong attitude I'm referring to is the running away and not standing up for what is ours. Letting those who would rather remove the E from the name of our organization win.
That's because we've become quitters and are not willing to stand up against things that have gone wrong. If things don't go our way, if we are shoved to the back of the organization so the warbirds can roar, we quit, and people such as yourself who have a natural leadership quit and take countless others with you.
and look where the warbirds are. We do WHATEVER it takes! it's OURS! But we are all old enough and mature enough to KNOW that you can get far more flies with honey than we can with vinegar. Going in with guns blazing will only get the door slammed in your face.
No, I know why. He inherited a cranberry ranch from his father, sold it off and doesn't have to work anymore.
Yeah, take OWNERSHIP!
I already outlined how we can collectively use our individual voices to he heard loud and clear.
Cool! But Your letter was only addressed to Mr. Poberezny, Mr. Knapinski and Mr. Smith, as the subject line reads.
Why not unite with the RV's? Rutan is not the only issue here.
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