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Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Webcave
 

Maybe you should look at as getting $500 of YOUR dollars back that have been stolen from you by a government that pisses it away. Say like bringing in 15,000 muslims we do not want or need. I understand the rational of which you speak, but I'll take the $500


JackM
Veze


 
Actually, what makes it worse in my view, is WE too are paying the subsidy that we're not entitled to?!  Let alone some single mother in backwater Iowa, waiting tables while some of her overtaxed burden pays this nonsense, and many, many other lousy special interest programs.  If a certified guy can't afford the equipment, sell your plane or stay out of the airspace that requires it.  Dont ask others to subsidize you.  Yes, that's freeloading!
Just more govt. BS pissing around money because its not theirs.  And mooches sucking it up because they don't have the integrity to JUST SAY NO.....


Re: Spinner options

Bulent Aliev
 

I was wandering about the same thing? I have belleville washers with hershey-kiss type spinner. No problems.
Buly


On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:49 AM, 'Marc J. Zeitlin' marc_zeitlin@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators-noreply@...> wrote:
 

Bruce Hughes wrote:
 
I guess I cannot use a spinner; I am using Belleville washers.

I cannot drive a car because my grandmother owns a giraffe.

Why do you believe belleville washers on your prop bolts and installing a spinner are mutually exclusive?

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Re: Spinner options

Tim Andres
 

There is no line Roosevelt, I guess I need to expound a bit.  A friend and I built the molds, made three spinners but never installed them.  A method of attach to the crush plate is needed and we never got that far.  James wanted to take a look at the molds and possibly developing a method to attach, but I believe he's become busy with a family issue of some kind.  So that's where it's at.
Tim Andres



On Jun 11, 2016, at 4:08 PM, jack jackson r320it@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators-noreply@...> wrote:

How do I get in line for this?



Roosevelt


Re: Spinner options

Marc J. Zeitlin
 

Bruce Hughes wrote:
 
I guess I cannot use a spinner; I am using Belleville washers.

I cannot drive a car because my grandmother owns a giraffe.

Why do you believe belleville washers on your prop bolts and installing a spinner are mutually exclusive?

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Eddy-kit on the Canard board.

Walt Beaulieu
 

All you all behave. - Mod.


Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Michael Johnson
 

I have an interest in not handing my money over to a government that wastes it. That much is true. 


On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 9:46 AM, 'SD-Ramirez, Simon' simon@... [canard-aviators]
wrote:
 

Michael, you probably have an interest in keeping government subsidies alive because your wife is a CPA.  It makes the tax code much more complex and therefore people depend on CPAs to do their taxes.  Do the math.

Simon Ramirez Oviedo, FL 32765 USA


On 6/11/2016 10:47 PM, Michael Johnson mkj1928@... [canard-aviators] wrote:
 

Government subsidies are in everything we do every hour of the day. I own a business and do very well for myself. I pay very little in taxes. My wife is a CPA, she simply follows the rules. Do the math. 


This problem you're talking about is a joke in the grand scheme of things. 


 

Actually, what makes it worse in my view, is WE too are paying the subsidy that we're not entitled to?!  Let alone some single mother in backwater Iowa, waiting tables while some of her overtaxed burden pays this nonsense, and many, many other lousy special interest programs.  If a certified guy can't afford the equipment, sell your plane or stay out of the airspace that requires it.  Dont ask others to subsidize you.  Yes, that's freeloading!

Just more govt. BS pissing around money because its not theirs.  And mooches sucking it up because they don't have the integrity to JUST SAY NO.....


Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

SD-Ramirez, Simon <simon@...>
 

Michael, you probably have an interest in keeping government subsidies alive because your wife is a CPA. It makes the tax code much more complex and therefore people depend on CPAs to do their taxes. Do the math.

Simon Ramirez Oviedo, FL 32765 USA


On 6/11/2016 10:47 PM, Michael Johnson mkj1928@... [canard-aviators] wrote:

Government subsidies are in everything we do every hour of the day. I own a business and do very well for myself. I pay very little in taxes. My wife is a CPA, she simply follows the rules. Do the math.


This problem you're talking about is a joke in the grand scheme of things.


Actually, what makes it worse in my view, is WE too are paying the subsidy that we're not entitled to?! Let alone some single mother in backwater Iowa, waiting tables while some of her overtaxed burden pays this nonsense, and many, many other lousy special interest programs. If a certified guy can't afford the equipment, sell your plane or stay out of the airspace that requires it. Dont ask others to subsidize you. Yes, that's freeloading!

Just more govt. BS pissing around money because its not theirs. And mooches sucking it up because they don't have the integrity to JUST SAY NO.....


Re: Spinner options

Bruce Hughes
 

Hi E.J. and everyone

I should have checked more. I am sorry
that I did not check; someone may have missed
buying from the son. I met him but don't
know his name. Chriss made really good
things.

What is the web page?

I guess I cannot use a spinner; I am using Belleville
washers.

I have one spare spinner (NOT made by Chriss but
I bought other stuff from him).

Bruce




On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 22:37:19 -0500
Elwood Johnson <ejandlinda@...> wrote:
Look up the web page the son has the businss.
EJ Johnson N36EJ Mid. Kansas

On Jun 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, 'Bruce Hughes' ezcopilot@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators-noreply@...> wrote:
Chris Wade was killed in a flying accident.
NOT a canard accident.
I don't know if anyone took over the business.
Bruce Hughes


Re: Spinner options

Elwood Johnson
 

Look up the web page the son has the businss.

EJ Johnson N36EJ Mid. Kansas


On Jun 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, 'Bruce Hughes' ezcopilot@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators-noreply@...> wrote:

 

Chris Wade was killed in a flying accident.
NOT a canard accident.

I don't know if anyone took over the business.

Bruce Hughes


Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Aviating Fool
 

Oh, I see.  that makes it all OK.  Thanks for the explanation.


Economical, but effective LED nav light/strobe setup?

Dave A
 

Any suggestions for an economical but effective nav light/strobe setup good for canards? I have a standard Whelen setup and wouldn't mind and upgrade.

Regards,

Dave Anderson


Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Michael Johnson
 

Government subsidies are in everything we do every hour of the day. I own a business and do very well for myself. I pay very little in taxes. My wife is a CPA, she simply follows the rules. Do the math. 

This problem you're talking about is a joke in the grand scheme of things. 


On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 9:59 PM, aviatingfool@... [canard-aviators]
wrote:
 

Actually, what makes it worse in my view, is WE too are paying the subsidy that we're not entitled to?!  Let alone some single mother in backwater Iowa, waiting tables while some of her overtaxed burden pays this nonsense, and many, many other lousy special interest programs.  If a certified guy can't afford the equipment, sell your plane or stay out of the airspace that requires it.  Dont ask others to subsidize you.  Yes, that's freeloading!

Just more govt. BS pissing around money because its not theirs.  And mooches sucking it up because they don't have the integrity to JUST SAY NO.....


Re: Unsubscribe Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Aviating Fool
 

Simple, as in all forums, if the discussion offends your sensitivities,  don't click on them.  Not cause to pick up your marbles run away.


Re: Unsubscribe Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Dave Adams
 

My delete key still works.

 

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OMG...decades in this group and with the elections coming up people can't holster their political views for the purity of sticking to aviation. Sorry guys enough is enough. It's been nice...till now.

 

Please unsubscribe me. So sad, wish those of you with more restraint luck with these people who know not that there are other places to push their politics. 

Tim Sullivan, Placerville CA

 

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On Jun 11, 2016, at 6:59 PM, aviatingfool@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators-noreply@...> wrote:

 

Actually, what makes it worse in my view, is WE too are paying the subsidy that we're not entitled to?!  Let alone some single mother in backwater Iowa, waiting tables while some of her overtaxed burden pays this nonsense, and many, many other lousy special interest programs.  If a certified guy can't afford the equipment, sell your plane or stay out of the airspace that requires it.  Dont ask others to subsidize you.  Yes, that's freeloading!

Just more govt. BS pissing around money because its not theirs.  And mooches sucking it up because they don't have the integrity to JUST SAY NO.....


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Unsubscribe Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

tim sullivan
 

OMG...decades in this group and with the elections coming up people can't holster their political views for the purity of sticking to aviation. Sorry guys enough is enough. It's been nice...till now.

Please unsubscribe me. So sad, wish those of you with more restraint luck with these people who know not that there are other places to push their politics. 

Tim Sullivan, Placerville CA

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On Jun 11, 2016, at 6:59 PM, aviatingfool@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators-noreply@...> wrote:

 

Actually, what makes it worse in my view, is WE too are paying the subsidy that we're not entitled to?!  Let alone some single mother in backwater Iowa, waiting tables while some of her overtaxed burden pays this nonsense, and many, many other lousy special interest programs.  If a certified guy can't afford the equipment, sell your plane or stay out of the airspace that requires it.  Dont ask others to subsidize you.  Yes, that's freeloading!

Just more govt. BS pissing around money because its not theirs.  And mooches sucking it up because they don't have the integrity to JUST SAY NO.....


Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Aviating Fool
 

Actually, what makes it worse in my view, is WE too are paying the subsidy that we're not entitled to?!  Let alone some single mother in backwater Iowa, waiting tables while some of her overtaxed burden pays this nonsense, and many, many other lousy special interest programs.  If a certified guy can't afford the equipment, sell your plane or stay out of the airspace that requires it.  Dont ask others to subsidize you.  Yes, that's freeloading!
Just more govt. BS pissing around money because its not theirs.  And mooches sucking it up because they don't have the integrity to JUST SAY NO.....


Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

A R Goldman <ARGOLDMAN@...>
 

Of course it is always easy to look at only one side of a situation especially with perhaps tinted glasses.

Lessee what is the reason for the adsb??

Oh a new way to control air traffic more safely and to enable more reliable positional awareness, by the controllers so that closer traffic spacing ls possible. Currently we rely on radar, which is ground based and thus all targets (us and others) are approximations based on trigonometric estimates. This requires larger spacing of aircraft in the system.

The main attempt is to keep aircraft from bumping into each other.

One might say "I don't fly ifr and don't use radar

You may not use control directly but it does help to keep those using the system to not hit you

I'm sure that there was the same argument when we switched from 4course to that new dangled VOR

It seems like your understanding is that gen aviation is a hobby.... Not necessarily true many businesses depend on gen aviation.

Our history is replete with the govt "social engineering " using money as incentives

If you own a house you are soaking the govt and those tax payers who don't own homes for your tax deductions for the interest you pay on your mortgage......

 A bit of social engineering which encouraged home ownership

Similarly the rebate to speed up the transition and learning time curve

Although much(most?) of what the govt does may seem ridiculous especially when viewed through myopic eyes some of it really has beneficial effects.

Let us all know when you send back your mortgage deduction back to the IRS. Which as we all know is just a redistribution of wealth and would be consistent with your stance on this matter

Rich








On Jun 11, 2016, at 7:55 PM, aviatingfool@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators-noreply@...> wrote:

 

Have to side wit Richard on this serious topic.  If you insist on taking money from the government for your hobby just because you can, you are guilty of robbing people in the rest of the country that have no damn interest in our hobby and should not be expected to chip in.  If you think "gee, it's so little" than think of that time every stupid special interest crap being subsidized by jerks like Huerta for their own special project through out the government.  

This whole program suck, like most of what Huerta does.  It' no different than the ethanol subsidy but on a smaller scale.  So his point is valid - you partake, you're part of the problem.  As a list manager Marc can be any kind of PC God he wants to be, unfortunately. But here it's nice to see some decent discussion of huge issues like this that affect us all and if you're too liberal to take it......frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
Sorry Don, thought you knew better.


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From Steven Silver via Facebook a few hours ago:

"Pray for my brother Todd and his Daughter, Gabriella both in critical condition following a plane crash in Collegedale, TN."

And: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2016/jun/11/plane-crashes-near-collegedale-airport/370592/


Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Mike Collier
 

I side with Richard as well... I am tired of Government redistributing wealth.  It just isn't fair and this is a very good example....why should everyday hard working folks help subsidise our hobbies. Just more big government trying to buy you!

On Jun 11, 2016 5:55 PM, "aviatingfool@... [canard-aviators]" <canard-aviators-noreply@...> wrote:
 

Have to side wit Richard on this serious topic.  If you insist on taking money from the government for your hobby just because you can, you are guilty of robbing people in the rest of the country that have no damn interest in our hobby and should not be expected to chip in.  If you think "gee, it's so little" than think of that time every stupid special interest crap being subsidized by jerks like Huerta for their own special project through out the government.  

This whole program suck, like most of what Huerta does.  It' no different than the ethanol subsidy but on a smaller scale.  So his point is valid - you partake, you're part of the problem.  As a list manager Marc can be any kind of PC God he wants to be, unfortunately. But here it's nice to see some decent discussion of huge issues like this that affect us all and if you're too liberal to take it......frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
Sorry Don, thought you knew better.


Re: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fw: FAA Will Reportedly Offer $500 ADS-B Rebate NOT TO COZY DRIVERS

Aviating Fool
 

Have to side wit Richard on this serious topic.  If you insist on taking money from the government for your hobby just because you can, you are guilty of robbing people in the rest of the country that have no damn interest in our hobby and should not be expected to chip in.  If you think "gee, it's so little" than think of that time every stupid special interest crap being subsidized by jerks like Huerta for their own special project through out the government.  
This whole program suck, like most of what Huerta does.  It' no different than the ethanol subsidy but on a smaller scale.  So his point is valid - you partake, you're part of the problem.  As a list manager Marc can be any kind of PC God he wants to be, unfortunately. But here it's nice to see some decent discussion of huge issues like this that affect us all and if you're too liberal to take it......frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
Sorry Don, thought you knew better.

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