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Re: ADSB in/out

aviationeyes
 

Do you now fly with bright white-lit feet  ;-)

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Jenatepilot jenatepilot@... [canard-aviators] wrote:
 


Just installed the uAvionics tail beacon in my nose compartment. Just needed power and ground. $1650. Installed in 1 hour. Not sure it gets easier than that. Love it. 

On Oct 5, 2019, at 4:07 PM, 'Joseph Berki' jskmberki@... [canard-aviators] wrote:
  


What solutions are builders using for ADSB in / out that does not cost an arm and a leg?

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b





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Re: CSA Newsletter Index

Michael Amick
 

 Thank you, Marc & especially Terry for the many years of giving!
Michael & Deborah Amick
Franklin TN

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 11:34 AM marc_zeitlin@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:
 

Folks:


Thanks to Terry Schubert, the latest CSA Newsletter Index has been posted at:

http://cozybuilders.org/ref_info/

Happy searching.

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Re: Canardians at FXE

Bulent Aliev
 

There were few canards in KFXE, but we were chased out of there by the jet crowd.I don’t think there is anyone left?

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 6:17 PM Aurélien aureliendrn@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:
 

I m in KFXE for a couples of monthes, any canardians in the surrounding?

Aurélien
VariEze Rotax building in France

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Re: ADSB in/out

ma_cozy_flyer
 

If your Mode C transponder is  older or questionable or you want to fly outside the USA you should consider the Appareo Stratus ESG Mode S transponder.  It can be found for around $2395

That's what I have and I'm very happy with it.  It was a pretty easy installation.  Mounted the GPS antenna inside the nose.  I use a 2 channel Stratux, Foreflight  and an IPAD mini for ADSB-in.  Weather and traffic alerts work well.

Bob Misterka
Cozy 3 N342RM


Re: Searching for Longez [1 Attachment]

Glenn Charles
 


Nick 

Obviously it took years to build !!

Why would you sell ??

Glennbob 



On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 10:15 AM, Nick U unick3@... [canard-aviators]
wrote:
 

Hi Jim,

You asked about someone selling a longez.   I am going to be selling my EZ an am asking $60k for it.  It is a high end of the price range most would pay for an EZ, but it is really decked out with everything one would want in the plane.  If he is looking for a basic plane or a low end price or want he want one to work on, this plane is not for him.  

I recently did a one year upgrade, and all the typical issues with these planes have been solved on my bird.  It is 2020 compliant, dual EFIS panels, outstanding heating, absolutely no air or water leaks, etc.  It is really n outstanding plane, and in my unbiassed option one of the best and most complete EZ’s you could buy. 

IO-320, 170 kt cruise speed (7.3 gph),  Fuel injection, dual electronic ignition, Garmin 430, coupled approaches, outstanding wiring, heat, baggage pods, cover, etc.   There is nothing anyone would every have to do to upgrade or change the plane.  Just fly and enjoy.  

If you look at my blog at http://nickugolini.com/blog/?m=201511 it documents the rebuild of plane that I did.  

If he are really interested at this price range we can talk further.   I plan to put it on Barnstormers and Trade-A-Plane in the next few months…

Hope all is going well with you!



 
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Nick Ugolini, www.nickugolini.com  
Charleston, SC 

LongEZ N29TM (for sale)
Cozy 4, N826ER











On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Jim Evans jevansez@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:


Please contact me if anyone knows of any for sale for a friend. 

Jim



Air Manager

josrph berki
 

Has anyone worked with Air Manager or X Plane to build a display on an I Pad or tablet?

I have been working on an engine monitor with a display, however, panel space is getting tight so I would like to put it on an I Pad or tablet.

Thanks for any help.

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b


Gas Spring

Keith Spreuer
 

Anyone have a link or part number for the canopy gas strut with safety catch?


Canardians at FXE

Durigneux "Tigroo" Aurélien
 

I m in KFXE for a couples of monthes, any canardians in the surrounding?

Aurélien
VariEze Rotax building in France


Re: Searching for Longez

Nick U
 

Hi Jim,

You asked about someone selling a longez.   I am going to be selling my EZ an am asking $60k for it.  It is a high end of the price range most would pay for an EZ, but it is really decked out with everything one would want in the plane.  If he is looking for a basic plane or a low end price or want he want one to work on, this plane is not for him.  

I recently did a one year upgrade, and all the typical issues with these planes have been solved on my bird.  It is 2020 compliant, dual EFIS panels, outstanding heating, absolutely no air or water leaks, etc.  It is really n outstanding plane, and in my unbiassed option one of the best and most complete EZ’s you could buy. 

IO-320, 170 kt cruise speed (7.3 gph),  Fuel injection, dual electronic ignition, Garmin 430, coupled approaches, outstanding wiring, heat, baggage pods, cover, etc.   There is nothing anyone would every have to do to upgrade or change the plane.  Just fly and enjoy.  

If you look at my blog at http://nickugolini.com/blog/?m=201511 it documents the rebuild of plane that I did.  

If he are really interested at this price range we can talk further.   I plan to put it on Barnstormers and Trade-A-Plane in the next few months…

Hope all is going well with you!



 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nick Ugolini, www.nickugolini.com  
Charleston, SC 

LongEZ N29TM (for sale)
Cozy 4, N826ER











On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Jim Evans jevansez@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:


Please contact me if anyone knows of any for sale for a friend. 

Jim



Re: ADSB in/out

Curt Boyll
 

DIY stratux (Raspberry Pi 3B) ADS-B Receiver (2-channel w/GPS, $160), displaying on a non-GPS Apple iPad Mini (2015, $700). And …

uAvionix SkyBeacon wing-tip mounted ADS-B Transmitter/WAAS GPS/Nav & Strobe Lights, piggy-backs onto existing Mode C XPDR, $1,500 just recently.

These are installed in a 1983 O-235 VariEze. For what it costs to operate this airplane, these modern avionics devices are easily justifiable.

Curt Boyll
canards, colorado

On Oct 5, 2019, at 2:07 PM, 'Joseph Berki' jskmberki@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:


What solutions are builders using for ADSB in / out that does not cost an arm and a leg?

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b




Re: ADSB in/out

Del Schier
 

I have had my setup for a while and there may be better options but the price was right.

 

A Skyguard UAT transponder for $1175 and a home brew Stratux dual band with AHRS from Amazon for $80.

 

Del Schier

Cozy IV N197DL

Cannon Creek Airpark 15FL

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@...
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 4:07 PM
To: canard-aviators@...
Subject: [c-a] ADSB in/out

 

 

What solutions are builders using for ADSB in / out that does not cost an arm and a leg?

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b


Re: ADSB in/out

Daryl Lueck
 

I used the Garmin GDL82 for out.   1 hour to install and that’s for mounting the small box and WAAS antenna.  Wiring was 10 minutes.  About $1700
    Daryl
    Cozy IV N797DL


On Oct 5, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Izzy Briggs inbriggs@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:

 

Scout costs a small arm at $200 for the device and another $100 per yr for Foreflight and another $500 for the iPhone.

The required bit is the ADSB Out. So the Leg can be traded for a a UAvionox for $1,700 installed by someone else.

There’s cheaper ways to do it all but it’s all about the same. 

You can probably get 2020 legal for $1,500 worth of new equipment depending on what your starting with (ie compatible Mode C transponder)

Izzy


On Oct 5, 2019, at 16:07, 'Joseph Berki' jskmberki@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:

 

What solutions are builders using for ADSB in / out that does not cost an arm and a leg?

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b


Re: ADSB in/out

Izzy
 

Scout costs a small arm at $200 for the device and another $100 per yr for Foreflight and another $500 for the iPhone.

The required bit is the ADSB Out. So the Leg can be traded for a a UAvionox for $1,700 installed by someone else.

There’s cheaper ways to do it all but it’s all about the same. 

You can probably get 2020 legal for $1,500 worth of new equipment depending on what your starting with (ie compatible Mode C transponder)

Izzy


On Oct 5, 2019, at 16:07, 'Joseph Berki' jskmberki@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:

 

What solutions are builders using for ADSB in / out that does not cost an arm and a leg?

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b


Re: ADSB in/out

Harley Dixon
 

https://uavionix.com/products/echo-uat/

On 10/5/2019 4:07 PM, 'Joseph Berki' jskmberki@... [canard-aviators] wrote:

What solutions are builders using for ADSB in / out that does not cost an arm and a leg?

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b



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Re: ADSB in/out

Jenatepilot
 

Just installed the uAvionics tail beacon in my nose compartment. Just needed power and ground. $1650. Installed in 1 hour. Not sure it gets easier than that. Love it. 

On Oct 5, 2019, at 4:07 PM, 'Joseph Berki' jskmberki@... [canard-aviators] wrote:

  

What solutions are builders using for ADSB in / out that does not cost an arm and a leg?

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b


ADSB in/out

josrph berki
 

What solutions are builders using for ADSB in / out that does not cost an arm and a leg?

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ 13b


Re: Searching for Longez

Jenatepilot
 

Yep. 

Www.316nm.com

On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Jim Evans jevansez@... [canard-aviators] wrote:

  

Please contact me if anyone knows of any for sale for a friend. 

Jim


Searching for Longez

Jim Evans
 

Please contact me if anyone knows of any for sale for a friend. 

Jim


Re: Starter cables

Chuck Busch
 

Back then there I used a series parallel relay made by a company named Orpin.   A quick web search show a similar ( maybe the same) relay is available here:

http://www.texasindustrialelectric.com/relays_1119845_6V.asp

 

Installation details ( car application)

https://forum.hetclub.org/discussion/171310/new-castle-battery-6-12-volt

 

BTW, I still have the original Orpin relay  - very reliable.

 

My business partner and I did another version of this on his LE using starter solenoids.  Not as elegant as the Orpin but functionally identical.

 

Best Regards,

 

Chuck

 

 

 

From: canard-aviators@...
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 9:01 PM
To: canard-aviators@...
Subject: RE: [c-a] Starter cables

 

 


Wow Chuck !!  That's great !!

 

But I've been scratching my head trying to figure out how you'd wire that.  How do you do the series and then switch to parallel without damaging all the other circuitry ? 

 

I have two odyssey bats and my starter will do 24 volts !!  Does it spin faster ?

 

Glennbob 

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 8:46 PM, ezflyr82@... [canard-aviators]

 

>> So you but two batteries every few years instead of one?<<

Actually, the mcy batteries lasted about 2 years.  Then I went to Odyssey’s and they lasted around 12 years.  BTW, I can just about taxi on the starter!

 

Best Regards,

 

Chuck

 

 

From: canard-aviators@... <canard-aviators@...>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 2:15 PM
To: canard-aviators@...
Subject: Re: [c-a] Starter cables

 

 

So you but two batteries every few years instead of one? Don’t see the advantage. Am i missing something?

Greg Norman


On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:16 PM, ezflyr82@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:

 

Another possible way to skin this cat is to go to a 24 volt starting system.  In 1987 I installed an 0-320 that came with a 24V starter.  I designed a system that would series two small 12V mcy batteries to provide starting voltage, then drop back to a parallel battery config for powering the electrical system.  With this setup the entire electrical system sans the starter is the std 12V.  Only the starter circuit is at 24V This has worked flawlessly since installation.  Due to the 24V the current to the starter is about half of what is needed at 12V requiring much smaller cables ( I seem to recall using 4/0 welding cable).  .

 

Chuck

 

From: canard-aviators@yahoogroups..com <canard-aviators@...>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 9:20 AM
To: canard-aviators <canard-aviators@...>
Subject: Re: [c-a] Starter cables

 

 

Copper is 3.32 times heavier than aluminum (which is one of the reasons you see more aluminum airplanes out there than copper airplanes). But the resistivity of aluminum is 1.57 times greater than that of copper.  That means to have equal resistance to a copper cable ( which is the important factor for starter performance) you are going to need an aluminum cable  with a crossectional area 1.57 times greater than the the copper cable.  The bottom line is the aluminum cable is going to weigh half as much and cost a third to a half as much as the  equally performing copper cable.

 

Now for the disadvantages of the aluminum cable:

1. I already mentioned that it is going to be larger, so space considerations may be a problem.

2.  Others have mentioned that oxidation can be a problem, resulting in a higher resistance connection resulting in more heat with the increased potential of fire.  

3. Aluminum expands much more than copper when high currents are passed through it (just the situation you have in a starter circuit).  These repeated cycles tend to loosen the connectors on the ends of the cable (called cold creep), increasing resistance, and possibly increasing the opportunity for oxidation.

 

There are several preventative measures that can be taken to overcome the last two disadvantages of  using aluminum cable.  Some of these are now required by code if aluminum wiring is used in buildings.  First there are special antioxidation pastes that are used to coat the cable ends before the connectors are attached.  Secondly, there are special connectors used with aluminum wire to deal with the cold creep problem.

 

These problems are less of a concern for us in the short term, because they usually take decades to develop.  The problem in housing is once the wires are installed, no long term inspections are normally done.   That is not the case for us.  We do inspections at least every year, and should just add checking for corrosion,  oxidation, and security of connectors on the starter cables.  This should be done for copper cable as well.  Another good check to do annually is to put a voltmeter across the cable from the battery to the starter motor, and measure the voltage drop when a high current is drawn, like cranking the engine with the ignition off.  This should show up problems long before they become dangerous.  And just pay attention to how fast your engine is turning before starting (taking into consideration the temperature and battery condition).  If the resistance is going up significantly in that line, you should notice it in starter performance.

 

Everyone has to make their own evaluation of advantages and disadvantages.  I would use an aluminum cable.

--Joel

 

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 10:51 AM A R Goldman ARGOLDMAN@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:

 

Don’t know if your intention is to stay away from aluminum if this is what you want

 

It is copper coated aluminum wire.. Don’t know what happens when crimped but I can imagine. 

 

Perhaps their required lugs mitigate the corrosion risk. —- or not.

 

For your runs calculate the actual weight difference. 

 

Also the load on the wire during start is short lived and requires,perhaps, a smaller gauge wire than what you are thinking. 

 

Rich


On Oct 4, 2019, at 9:24 AM, skyeyecorp@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:

 

Yes, stay away from aluminum wires. I think it was Piper that had huge problems with that experiment. However, if you want to save weight and spend money go look at the FAT wires.....

 

 

--Jose

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Bruce Hughes ezcopilot@... [canard-aviators] wrote:

 

 

Group:

 

Beware of using aluminum wire.

I am NOT an expert on much of

anything but I know that oxide will

build up on the surface of aluminum.

The oxide creates a resistance that

you do not want..     Special connectors,

I have been told, are used in house

wiring.   Fires have been caused by

incorrect house/business wiring.

 

I wish I knew more.

 

Remember, most of that wiring is

ahead of the CG so weight is a help,

at least in my Longeze.

 

Bruce Hughes

Expert on E. coli bacteria

as well as Shigella, Salmonella,

etc.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Buly bulent.enginegear@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...>

Sent: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 08:42:07 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [c-a] Starter cables

 

 

 

 

 

 

On my CZ with IO-360 I had #4 cable for the starter and worked perfectly. 

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 5:38 AM Glen bob gcm2291@... [canard-aviators] <canard-aviators@...> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

GENTLEMEN !!

 

 

wiring up my sky tech starter. The cables that come from the nose are huge !

 

 

The labeling says " 1 guage welding " . I know we want to provide a non restricting conduit for the power to the starter, but I fear this is a little overkill. Not to mention Heavy !! ( did I mention that ? ) : )

 

 

I'm wondering if we could get by with # 4 guage. The welding cable is very finely stranded, for much movement, but once installed, I don't see this cable moving much. - Except across the sky at high speed !

 

 

Also, with the weight consideration, what about aluminum cable ? Believe it or not, this is still used in the construction trade.

 

 

Any input would be fascinating !!

 

 

Glennbob

 

 

 

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Re: Aircraft Registration Numbers

Marc J. Zeitlin
 

Keith Ramsey wrote:
 
Maybe I'm reading too much into the FAA's word selection, but if you have "NX" before your registration number, you don't need the "experimental" placard and will be in compliance with §§45.23.

What do you guys think?

I think that you found the exception to the exception that James had pointed out. I missed the first exception AND the second exception, which is why I thought that the ADIZ/DEWIZ requirement didn't apply. The exception in 45.22 makes it apply again, but the exception in 45.23 makes it NOT apply again :-).

Your interpretation looks correct to me. Who knows what the FAA would say about it, but pointing out 45.22 and 45.23 to anyone that complained about it should settle the argument, I'd think.

Thanks! 

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