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Re: LED Landing light?

nosedragger48154
 

No Joe, I speaking of your Pitot Tube in your Vari.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

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From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Person
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:21 PM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

No landing light in my Eze.

 

-Joe Person



On May 6, 2020, at 12:20 PM, gary hall <gary.chris@...> wrote:



I would like to see the picture of landing light in the nose too!

On May 6, 2020 at 3:17 PM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

In the nose, it is exactly like Joe Person’s.  In fact he is where I got the idea from in the first place.  I’ll get a picture of it later this afternoon and sent it to you.

 

Mike

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Spreuer
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:04 PM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Where is your pitot tube?

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:58 AM Jenatepilot <jenatepilot@gmailcom> wrote:

Mike I have zero regrets with my Pitot/landing light install in my ez. Check it out under avionics chapter on my build log. 

 

 

On May 6, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:

 

I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

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Re: LED Landing light?

nosedragger48154
 

It does,  thank you!  Still deciding on the lights I want to use.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:09 PM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Mike, Still in process, things have pretty much ground to a halt here with the sequester, I've been out to the hanger 2X since it started.

 

The concept is this:

 

I am using 2 Aeroled "sun beam lights approx 4X3" which will be mounted on the front surface of bulkhead 1.

I have designed mounting tabs for these which in effect give a 3 point fixation. between each of these points (bolts) there will be a compression spring bearing on the tab and the bulkhead (with washer on bulkhead or some protective device. the bolt will go through the bulkhead into a captured nut. Alternatively the bolt/screw head will go through the bulkhead into a captured nut on the light tabs. This will give me the ability to aim each light.

 

The curvature in the nose (aerocanard) is not terribly complex and I will be doing tests to see if I can, after applying felt to the fuselage, make a simple jig, heat the plexi, and holding the jig press it onto the surface and let it cool. Before cutting out the light holes, I will fabricate a joggle to accept the trimmed plastic.

 

If the direct method fails, I will make an impression (probably with plaster or cheap glass of the area,pour a positive mold and vacuuform the plastic over it.

 

don't know when I will be doing this, but hopefully soon.. I will take pix..as of now the only pix I will have is of magic marker marks on the nose cone.

 

If the screws come from the front of the  jigs, aiming can be done through the ballast nose cover. If from the aft side of the bulkhead, through the hatch.

 

The aim will, I think, be retained by the pressure of the springs as well as the captured nuts to resist vibrational movement.

 

I hope this sheds a little light on the subject.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 11:24:37 AM Central Standard Time, ezdriver@... writes:

 

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

 


Re: LED Landing light?

Joe Person
 

No landing light in my Eze.

-Joe Person


On May 6, 2020, at 12:20 PM, gary hall <gary.chris@...> wrote:


I would like to see the picture of landing light in the nose too!
On May 6, 2020 at 3:17 PM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

In the nose, it is exactly like Joe Person’s.  In fact he is where I got the idea from in the first place.  I’ll get a picture of it later this afternoon and sent it to you.

 

Mike

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Spreuer
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:04 PM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Where is your pitot tube?

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:58 AM Jenatepilot <jenatepilot@...> wrote:

Mike I have zero regrets with my Pitot/landing light install in my ez. Check it out under avionics chapter on my build log. 

 



On May 6, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:

 

I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

Attachments:

 



 


Re: LED Landing light?

gary hall
 

I would like to see the picture of landing light in the nose too!

On May 6, 2020 at 3:17 PM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

In the nose, it is exactly like Joe Person’s.  In fact he is where I got the idea from in the first place.  I’ll get a picture of it later this afternoon and sent it to you.

 

Mike

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Spreuer
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:04 PM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Where is your pitot tube?

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:58 AM Jenatepilot <jenatepilot@...> wrote:

Mike I have zero regrets with my Pitot/landing light install in my ez. Check it out under avionics chapter on my build log. 

 



On May 6, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:

 

I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

Attachments:

 



 


Re: LED Landing light?

nosedragger48154
 

In the nose, it is exactly like Joe Person’s.  In fact he is where I got the idea from in the first place.  I’ll get a picture of it later this afternoon and sent it to you.

 

Mike

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Spreuer
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:04 PM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Where is your pitot tube?

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:58 AM Jenatepilot <jenatepilot@...> wrote:

Mike I have zero regrets with my Pitot/landing light install in my ez. Check it out under avionics chapter on my build log. 

 



On May 6, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:



I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

Attachments:


Re: LED Landing light?

nosedragger48154
 

Thanks Keith!

 

Mike

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jenatepilot
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:09 PM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Mike I have zero regrets with my Pitot/landing light install in my ez. Check it out under avionics chapter on my build log. 

 



On May 6, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:



I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

Attachments:


Re: LED Landing light?

A R Goldman
 

Mike, Still in process, things have pretty much ground to a halt here with the sequester, I've been out to the hanger 2X since it started.

The concept is this:

I am using 2 Aeroled "sun beam lights approx 4X3" which will be mounted on the front surface of bulkhead 1.
I have designed mounting tabs for these which in effect give a 3 point fixation. between each of these points (bolts) there will be a compression spring bearing on the tab and the bulkhead (with washer on bulkhead or some protective device. the bolt will go through the bulkhead into a captured nut. Alternatively the bolt/screw head will go through the bulkhead into a captured nut on the light tabs. This will give me the ability to aim each light.

The curvature in the nose (aerocanard) is not terribly complex and I will be doing tests to see if I can, after applying felt to the fuselage, make a simple jig, heat the plexi, and holding the jig press it onto the surface and let it cool. Before cutting out the light holes, I will fabricate a joggle to accept the trimmed plastic.

If the direct method fails, I will make an impression (probably with plaster or cheap glass of the area,pour a positive mold and vacuuform the plastic over it.

don't know when I will be doing this, but hopefully soon.. I will take pix..as of now the only pix I will have is of magic marker marks on the nose cone.

If the screws come from the front of the  jigs, aiming can be done through the ballast nose cover. If from the aft side of the bulkhead, through the hatch.

The aim will, I think, be retained by the pressure of the springs as well as the captured nuts to resist vibrational movement.

I hope this sheds a little light on the subject.

Rich

In a message dated 5/6/2020 11:24:37 AM Central Standard Time, ezdriver@... writes:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.


It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.


I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..


Pods, if you have them would be great.


I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.


Rich


In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:


I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO



Re: LED Landing light?

Jenatepilot
 

Under my canard on the left side in the position used by velocity aircraft. 

On May 6, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:


Where is your pitot tube?

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:58 AM Jenatepilot <jenatepilot@...> wrote:
Mike I have zero regrets with my Pitot/landing light install in my ez. Check it out under avionics chapter on my build log. 


On May 6, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:


I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

Attachments:


Re: LED Landing light?

Keith Spreuer
 

Where is your pitot tube?


On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:58 AM Jenatepilot <jenatepilot@...> wrote:
Mike I have zero regrets with my Pitot/landing light install in my ez. Check it out under avionics chapter on my build log. 


On May 6, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:


I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

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Re: LED Landing light?

Jenatepilot
 

Mike I have zero regrets with my Pitot/landing light install in my ez. Check it out under avionics chapter on my build log. 

Www.mykitlog.com/Jenatepilot 

On May 6, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Keith Spreuer <kspreuer@...> wrote:


I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO

Attachments:


Re: LED Landing light?

Keith Spreuer
 

I agree, the nose is a very good location. No deployment mechanism, turn it on in any flight regime, no shadows, no vibration no heat.... I used a High beam/low beam so I get both taxi and landing angles. I turn them both on at once but that is easily changed. I did relocate the pitot to above and behind the nose a few inches but it works well. The calibration is reasonable and no pitot in the dirt when parking


On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:24 AM nosedragger48154 <ezdriver@...> wrote:

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO


Re: LED Landing light?

nosedragger48154
 

I personally would really like to see the process you went thru to put the lights in the nose, that is if you took pictures of the all the different steps.  Also how you are forming the Plexiglass lens.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mike Scovel

SE Michigan

VariEze

 

Mbl     (313) 608-7202

Email   ezdriver@...

Email   info@...

             http://www.brighterstick.com

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO


Re: LED Landing light?

Del Schier
 

Steve, One problem that you may not anticipate is cold air gets in the holes for the plans install; not good flying near freezing temps.  I do like the plans location as you can aim the light up or down and use it in daylight such as approaches to Sun N Fun or Oskosh.  I don’t always use my speed brake down or have it down before I need a landing light.

 

Del Schier

Cozy IV N197DL

Cannon Creek Airpark 15FL

 

 

 

From: members@canardzone.groups.io <members@canardzone.groups.io> On Behalf Of A R Goldman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:11 AM
To: members@canardzone.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Canard Zone] LED Landing light?

 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

 

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

 

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

 

Pods, if you have them would be great.

 

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO


Re: LED Landing light?

A R Goldman
 

Landing gear strut and brake light is great when you are in only landing  configuration.

It, however eliminates one of the advantages of lights (both in day and night) and that is when close to a busy airport illuminated and possibly alternating  lights are one more thing that might catch the eye of other pilots in the air.

I originally thought about wheel pants but dismissed that because of vibration (possibly not applicable to LEDs) but also increased heat in the pant via the brakes reducing life..

Pods, if you have them would be great.

I am putting them in the nose and am about to mold the plexi. We will see how that comes out.

Rich

In a message dated 5/6/2020 9:50:11 AM Central Standard Time, SWROTHERT@... writes:

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO


Re: LED Landing light?

Steve Rothert
 

I've seen some guys put a landing light in the speed brake and another installation on the nose gear strut.  

I have often thought about installing landing lights in the nose of the wheel pants but worried about the life expectancy with just normal vibration.

If you have the wing pods installed, another thought would be to install the landing lights in the nose of the pods.

Steve Rothert
Colorado Springs, CO


O-235 C2C for sale

Larry Pilkington
 

After years of not building and just lurking on this list, I'm finally getting back into my Long EZ project.  In the interim, I have picked up an O-320, so my ready-to-assemble O-235 C2C is for sale. Asking $10k, but shoot me an offer.

Details: 
- 485 hours total time (yes, total).
- Removed from a Grumman in 1982, then pickled.
- Disassembled end of 2007 for overhaul and crank straightening, with A&P/IA supervision. Inside was sparkling clean (and very oily!).
- Since it was apart, everything was sent out. Case, crank, cam, cylinders honed/ringed and valves lapped, carb overhauled, all the little bits inspected... everything.
- Swapped accessory case for one with oil cooler provisions.
- Full overhaul kit purchased at the same time (new Slick mags, new harness, new plugs, gasket set, bearings... the whole she-bang).
- Life happened, everything sat in storage, well sealed, until last year when I pulled it all out.  Only thing that needed replaced due to storage were the rods (I bought and overhauled a replacement set, have paperwork- both sets included). 
- Log book included. It is a replacement log, filled out and signed by the A&P/IA- if you want to keep this a certificated engine, you can.
- Prop included if you want it. Perry Experimental Props out of Livingston TX. The original builder purchased it, it does not have pitch markings but he did purchase it specifically for the 235.
- Original accessories: starter, alternator, vacuum pump (vac pump not operational). These are not likely useful for a Canard build, but you can have them if you want.

At core value plus what I've spent on the overhauled bits, I'm in for like $14k, but it has been in storage and I recognize the new owner would be taking some risk so I'm not asking full spend. I plan to fly in Colorado in the summers quite a bit- when I got a deal on the 320, it just made sense. There's nothing wrong with this 235, and it is at the stage where you could pop in a set of high compression pistons, blue-print it, whatever you want to do. I'd also just sell the engine as a whole and keep the mags if you don't want them- that's $2k there.  

Everything is located at Independence, OR, (7S5) if you want to see it (social distancing respected).  I stashed photos here:

https://sites.google.com/view/engine-ad/home

Thanks,

Larry
Portland, OR (formerly Windsor, CO)
lopilk@...


Re: : Ipad mini panel mount RAM Mount Part Nos.

Mike Tooze
 


Hi Ion, All,

After I replied to you I looked up the RAM Mount site - very confusing if visiting for the first time!"
I therefore thought to copy the group with this.

I looked up the RAM Mount part numbers that I used and are illustrated in my photos.

Apple iPad mini 1-3 Holder P/N RAM-HOL-AP14
RAP-B-201 Double socket arm
RAP-B-238 Diamond Base with 1" Ball
RAP-B-202 Round base fits to holder w 1" ball

The above is what I use successfully in my Vari (My diamond base is appears to be slightly different but of no consequence.)

Mike T


On Wednesday, 29 April 2020, 18:54:39 BST, Ion Huss / Lisa Doughty <lisnion@...> wrote:


Yup, what is it called & where do I get it?

Ion


Re: LED Landing light?

John ten Have
 

You can also replace the Plans light bulb with an equivalent form factor LED light. I did this mod, and you could weld with it, it is so bright.  I sourced the lamp from Ebay as I recall - an after market LED automotive spotlight and then machined the fins on the alloy housing to fit into the original plans frame.

Regards

John

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 08:17, Bob Holliston <bob.holliston@...> wrote:
Ion, bummer about the epoxy sensitivity. However installing the plans landing light should take less than an hour (messing with epoxy) time. That's only for closing out around the foam in the hole you cut for the light and glassing in a little piece of plywood that holds the nut plates for the hinge. All the mechanical stuff takes lots longer. If I was going to do it to a finished EZ I'd probably stand the plane on its tail and cut the hole from the bottom with a saber saw and do the fitting of the bracket. 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ian Huss via groups.io <lisnion=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bob, 
I'm not so keen on doing the plans landing light since I'm nursing a mild epoxy sensitivity. I try to save my epoxy exposure for more important repairs. A bolt-on solution is preferred.

Ion
0-320 Long EZ 1617 hrs


What's wrong with the plans landing light? It's plenty bright and fully adjustable for landing or taxi. I've used mine only for taxi since I don't land on unlighted runways at night. In fact I don't fly at night unless due to (my bad planning) it ends up that way. I have used it a few times during the day when on a long straight in to a tower airport and the tower says they don't see me yet. That works, especially since I have an auto turn signal unit wired into the three position toggle. 



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Re: LED Landing light?

Steve Stearns
 

And I'll bet Ion could off load that epoxy work on someone less sensitive if he was inclined.  I know where to look at an example install near Ion's hangar too...

Steve.


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 2:17 PM Bob Holliston <bob.holliston@...> wrote:
Ion, bummer about the epoxy sensitivity. However installing the plans landing light should take less than an hour (messing with epoxy) time. That's only for closing out around the foam in the hole you cut for the light and glassing in a little piece of plywood that holds the nut plates for the hinge. All the mechanical stuff takes lots longer. If I was going to do it to a finished EZ I'd probably stand the plane on its tail and cut the hole from the bottom with a saber saw and do the fitting of the bracket. 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ian Huss via groups.io <lisnion=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bob, 
I'm not so keen on doing the plans landing light since I'm nursing a mild epoxy sensitivity. I try to save my epoxy exposure for more important repairs. A bolt-on solution is preferred.

Ion
0-320 Long EZ 1617 hrs


What's wrong with the plans landing light? It's plenty bright and fully adjustable for landing or taxi. I've used mine only for taxi since I don't land on unlighted runways at night. In fact I don't fly at night unless due to (my bad planning) it ends up that way. I have used it a few times during the day when on a long straight in to a tower airport and the tower says they don't see me yet. That works, especially since I have an auto turn signal unit wired into the three position toggle. 



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Re: LED Landing light?

Bob Holliston
 

Ion, bummer about the epoxy sensitivity. However installing the plans landing light should take less than an hour (messing with epoxy) time. That's only for closing out around the foam in the hole you cut for the light and glassing in a little piece of plywood that holds the nut plates for the hinge. All the mechanical stuff takes lots longer. If I was going to do it to a finished EZ I'd probably stand the plane on its tail and cut the hole from the bottom with a saber saw and do the fitting of the bracket. 


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ian Huss via groups.io <lisnion=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bob, 
I'm not so keen on doing the plans landing light since I'm nursing a mild epoxy sensitivity. I try to save my epoxy exposure for more important repairs. A bolt-on solution is preferred.

Ion
0-320 Long EZ 1617 hrs


What's wrong with the plans landing light? It's plenty bright and fully adjustable for landing or taxi. I've used mine only for taxi since I don't land on unlighted runways at night. In fact I don't fly at night unless due to (my bad planning) it ends up that way. I have used it a few times during the day when on a long straight in to a tower airport and the tower says they don't see me yet. That works, especially since I have an auto turn signal unit wired into the three position toggle. 



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