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Good morning all,
Looking at upgrading and just asking for current thoughts or experiences.
Thanks in advance!
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I have, in the past always purchased iPads with cellular. I continue to do so with my traveling ( ergo aviation ) iPad same with my wife’s mini iPad. We only do mini iPads. We have no professional use for the iPads. I just replaced my wife’s mini iPad for what looked like a hardware failure of the wifi component. since we dont travel as much and wifi is more available, I opted not to add the cellular component to her new mini ipad. for me, the full size ipad is too large for my aviation uses. In my cockpit I have 2 ipads. One is nothing but a approach plate backup as I carry no paper plates or maps anymore. It is cheaper to buy a bottom of the line ipad for your backup than to maintain ANY current paper products. No that my Dynon has the seattle avionics maping and plates, the extra belt and suspenders extra ipad probablly over kill. BTW the extra backup ipad has always been wifi. although my phone has foreflight on it, i dont tend to use it for aviation very much, but probably could substitute for the cellular connection that you need for filing flight plans away from home. Also the asdb weather might substitute for a cellular connection for pre takeoff weather from my ipad. Do I have you confused? LOL
Good morning all,
Looking at upgrading and just asking for current thoughts or experiences.
Thanks in advance!
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If you have an alternate gps source like Stratus or Stratux then wifi only works fine (although the cell model has gps which makes a good backup)
On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:36 AM, JOHN STEICHEN <nn27gz@...> wrote:
I have, in the past always purchased iPads with cellular. I continue to do so with my traveling ( ergo aviation ) iPad same with my wife’s mini iPad. We only do mini iPads. We have no professional use for the iPads. I just replaced my wife’s mini iPad for what looked like a hardware failure of the wifi component. since we dont travel as much and wifi is more available, I opted not to add the cellular component to her new mini ipad. for me, the full size ipad is too large for my aviation uses. In my cockpit I have 2 ipads. One is nothing but a approach plate backup as I carry no paper plates or maps anymore. It is cheaper to buy a bottom of the line ipad for your backup than to maintain ANY current paper products. No that my Dynon has the seattle avionics maping and plates, the extra belt and suspenders extra ipad probablly over kill. BTW the extra backup ipad has always been wifi. although my phone has foreflight on it, i dont tend to use it for aviation very much, but probably could substitute for the cellular connection that you need for filing flight plans away from home. Also the asdb weather might substitute for a cellular connection for pre takeoff weather from my ipad. Do I have you confused? LOL Good morning all,
Looking at upgrading and just asking for current thoughts or experiences.
Thanks in advance!
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FWIW, I haven’t extra large version that I call the Maxi Pad. I like the larger size and haven’t had any problems with it getting in the way. No cell connection; just WiFi to me ADSB.
Vernon
On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:36 AM, JOHN STEICHEN <nn27gz@...> wrote:
I have, in the past always purchased iPads with cellular. I continue to do so with my traveling ( ergo aviation ) iPad same with my wife’s mini iPad. We only do mini iPads. We have no professional use for the iPads. I just replaced my wife’s mini iPad for what looked like a hardware failure of the wifi component. since we dont travel as much and wifi is more available, I opted not to add the cellular component to her new mini ipad. for me, the full size ipad is too large for my aviation uses. In my cockpit I have 2 ipads. One is nothing but a approach plate backup as I carry no paper plates or maps anymore. It is cheaper to buy a bottom of the line ipad for your backup than to maintain ANY current paper products. No that my Dynon has the seattle avionics maping and plates, the extra belt and suspenders extra ipad probablly over kill. BTW the extra backup ipad has always been wifi. although my phone has foreflight on it, i dont tend to use it for aviation very much, but probably could substitute for the cellular connection that you need for filing flight plans away from home. Also the asdb weather might substitute for a cellular connection for pre takeoff weather from my ipad. Do I have you confused? LOL Good morning all,
Looking at upgrading and just asking for current thoughts or experiences.
Thanks in advance!
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I don't think I would tell anyone that you were flying with a Maxipad!!
FWIW, I haven’t extra large version that I call the Maxi Pad. I like the larger size and haven’t had any problems with it getting in the way. No cell connection; just WiFi to me ADSB.
Vernon On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:36 AM, JOHN STEICHEN <nn27gz@...> wrote:
I have, in the past always purchased iPads with cellular. I continue to do so with my traveling ( ergo aviation ) iPad same with my wife’s mini iPad. We only do mini iPads. We have no professional use for the iPads. I just replaced my wife’s mini iPad for what looked like a hardware failure of the wifi component. since we dont travel as much and wifi is more available, I opted not to add the cellular component to her new mini ipad. for me, the full size ipad is too large for my aviation uses. In my cockpit I have 2 ipads. One is nothing but a approach plate backup as I carry no paper plates or maps anymore. It is cheaper to buy a bottom of the line ipad for your backup than to maintain ANY current paper products. No that my Dynon has the seattle avionics maping and plates, the extra belt and suspenders extra ipad probablly over kill. BTW the extra backup ipad has always been wifi. although my phone has foreflight on it, i dont tend to use it for aviation very much, but probably could substitute for the cellular connection that you need for filing flight plans away from home. Also the asdb weather might substitute for a cellular connection for pre takeoff weather from my ipad. Do I have you confused? LOL Good morning all,
Looking at upgrading and just asking for current thoughts or experiences.
Thanks in advance!
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Absolutely Neil. I had forgotten the gps aspect. Very important distinction John s
If you have an alternate gps source like Stratus or Stratux then wifi only works fine (although the cell model has gps which makes a good backup) On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:36 AM, JOHN STEICHEN <nn27gz@...> wrote:
I have, in the past always purchased iPads with cellular. I continue to do so with my traveling ( ergo aviation ) iPad same with my wife’s mini iPad. We only do mini iPads. We have no professional use for the iPads. I just replaced my wife’s mini iPad for what looked like a hardware failure of the wifi component. since we dont travel as much and wifi is more available, I opted not to add the cellular component to her new mini ipad. for me, the full size ipad is too large for my aviation uses. In my cockpit I have 2 ipads. One is nothing but a approach plate backup as I carry no paper plates or maps anymore. It is cheaper to buy a bottom of the line ipad for your backup than to maintain ANY current paper products. No that my Dynon has the seattle avionics maping and plates, the extra belt and suspenders extra ipad probablly over kill. BTW the extra backup ipad has always been wifi. although my phone has foreflight on it, i dont tend to use it for aviation very much, but probably could substitute for the cellular connection that you need for filing flight plans away from home. Also the asdb weather might substitute for a cellular connection for pre takeoff weather from my ipad. Do I have you confused? LOL Good morning all,
Looking at upgrading and just asking for current thoughts or experiences.
Thanks in advance!
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I've recently been using my old original iPad-mini in my long-ez. It is a wifi only version running iFly-GPS. It readily picks up the GPS signal from my uavionics based ADSB in/out system. I get maps, position, traffic, weather, although there have been rare instances of the iPad or iFly not acquiring the GPS. (It's a bug I have to figure out) Overall it has been very satisfactory, although I find even the mini iPad kinda big in the Long-EZ cockpit (it is ram mounted to the longeron). Btw, I recently compared it to he latest mini and I wasn't impressed by how much better (brightness and contrast) the newer screen display was.
--Jose
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, at 3:40 AM, JOHN STEICHEN wrote:
Absolutely Neil. I had forgotten the gps aspect. Very important distinction John s
If you have an alternate gps source like Stratus or Stratux then wifi only works fine (although the cell model has gps which makes a good backup)
On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:36 AM, JOHN STEICHEN < nn27gz@...> wrote:
I have, in the past always purchased iPads with cellular. I continue to do so with my traveling ( ergo aviation ) iPad same with my wife’s mini iPad. We only do mini iPads. We have no professional use for the iPads.
I just replaced my wife’s mini iPad for what looked like a hardware failure of the wifi component. since we dont travel as much and wifi is more available, I opted not to add the cellular component to her new mini ipad.
for me, the full size ipad is too large for my aviation uses. In my cockpit I have 2 ipads. One is nothing but a approach plate backup as I carry no paper plates or maps anymore. It is cheaper to buy a bottom of the line ipad for your backup than to maintain ANY current paper products. No that my
Dynon has the seattle avionics maping and plates, the extra belt and suspenders extra ipad probablly over kill. BTW the extra backup ipad has always been wifi.
although my phone has foreflight on it, i dont tend to use it for aviation very much, but probably could substitute for the cellular connection that you need for filing flight plans away from home. Also the asdb weather might substitute for a cellular connection for pre takeoff weather from my ipad. Do I have you confused? LOL
Good morning all,
Looking at upgrading and just asking for current thoughts or experiences.
Thanks in advance!
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KEN4ZZ
I flew professionally w/ iPads for about 10 years. The first
generation was a joke the processor was so slow. Only good for
reading the flight and operations manuals - on the ground. When
the company went to the iPad Air 2 (9.7") everything, including
approach charts (domestic and international), enroute charts (high
and low, domestic, international, and oceanic), ops and flight
manuals, training manuals and documents, and more was migrated to
the iPad. The company provided them with world wide roaming
cellular accounts. The EFB program used was a sort of super-big
brother to Foreflight, Jepp-Pro.
I found the cellular function exceptionally valuable. Yes you can
tether to your phone, but many times that will range from mildly
inconvenient to a real PITA. If you're in a bit of a hurry it
might even influence you to forgo that one last weather and notam
check before you depart. When tethered to your phone, you're
discharging 2 batteries instead of one. Your phone may very well
have a much stronger battery than mine, but I find when I fire up
my phone's hot spot function the battery drain more than triples.
Also, as mentioned, w/ cellular you get built in GPS. Seeing your
precise position on an airport diagram at a sprawling unfamiliar
airport, at night, in bad weather can be worth its weight in
gold. While as stated the GPS isn't 100% reliable in the air
(even at FL390 w/ an excellent view of the sky), it for some
reason seems to nearly always work on or near the ground. Yes,
you can pipe GPS position to your iPad from an on board source,
but again consider battery drain; wifi both transmits and receives
while GPS only receives. "No problem, I'll just plug it into my
on board USB charge outlet". Potentially then there could be one
or 2 iPads, a Stratus, and maybe a cell phone plugged in. Perhaps
add in a music source. Just how big a spaghetti jungle of cords
are you willing to put up with in YOUR cockpit?
I've got a 7" android tablet w/ cellular that I use w/ Avare in my
VariEze. That said, I'm well aware that the IOS versions of
various EFB apps are generally better than the android versions
and that some of the best are IOS only. I'm a realist. Shortly
after I retired, I bought a refurbished iPad that is identical -
including cellular - to the one I used at work. As an experiment,
I took the sim card out of my android tablet and tried it in my
new-to-me iPad. It worked great and even showed up on my cell
carrier's website as an iPad. When I get my Defiant up to speed
for serious IFR traveling, there's a good chance that sim will
migrate to the iPad nearly full time.
Just my $0.02.
Ken
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On 7/18/2020 9:48 AM, aviationeyes
wrote:
I've recently been using my old
original iPad-mini in my long-ez. It is a wifi only version
running iFly-GPS. It readily picks up the GPS signal from my
uavionics based ADSB in/out system. I get maps, position,
traffic, weather, although there have been rare instances of the
iPad or iFly not acquiring the GPS. (It's a bug I have to figure
out) Overall it has been very satisfactory, although I find
even the mini iPad kinda big in the Long-EZ cockpit (it is ram
mounted to the longeron). Btw, I recently compared it to he
latest mini and I wasn't impressed by how much better
(brightness and contrast) the newer screen display was.
--Jose
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, at 3:40 AM, JOHN STEICHEN wrote:
Absolutely Neil. I had forgotten the gps
aspect. Very important distinction John s
If you have an alternate gps source like Stratus or
Stratux then wifi only works fine (although the cell
model has gps which makes a good backup)
On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:36 AM, JOHN STEICHEN
< nn27gz@...>
wrote:
I have, in the past always
purchased iPads with cellular. I continue to
do so with my traveling ( ergo aviation ) iPad
same with my wife’s mini iPad. We only do mini
iPads. We have no professional use for the
iPads.
I just replaced my wife’s mini
iPad for what looked like a hardware failure of
the wifi component. since we dont travel as
much and wifi is more available, I opted not
to add the cellular component to her new
mini ipad.
for
me, the full size ipad is too large for my
aviation uses. In my cockpit I have 2
ipads. One is nothing but a approach plate
backup as I carry no paper plates or maps
anymore. It is cheaper to buy a bottom of
the line ipad for your backup than to
maintain ANY current paper products. No that
my
Dynon
has the seattle avionics maping and plates,
the extra belt and suspenders extra ipad
probablly over kill. BTW the extra backup
ipad has always been wifi.
although
my phone has foreflight on it, i dont tend
to use it for aviation very much, but
probably could substitute for the cellular
connection that you need for filing flight
plans away from home. Also the asdb
weather might substitute for a cellular
connection for pre takeoff weather from my
ipad. Do I have you confused? LOL
Good morning all,
Looking at upgrading and just asking for
current thoughts or experiences.
Thanks in advance!
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